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Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

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Carl
Level 15

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

Is/was it vacant between renters? If so, if you'll work through the rental expenses section you'll see a box specifically labeled "utilities". Enter your amounts there.
If this was not between two renters, then let me know. I've important information to provide that you will find helpful.

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

No, was first time available for renting at the end of August 2017 and finally rented the last week of December 2017. Before that, I was just trying to sell it.
DS30
New Member

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

Then you will only include the utility costs as rental expenses for the time that it was available for rent (Aug 2017) until the end of the year. Any utility costs before it was available for rent will not be deductible.

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

How do I do that? Just get the bills and add them up for those months or can I estimate?
DS30
New Member

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

You will need to add up the bills for those months and include the total for these months as a utility expense for your rental property.
Carl
Level 15

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

Here's the whole scoop.

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence before, then this date is the day AFTER  you moved out.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter "could" have moved in. That should be your "in service" date if you were asked for that. vacant periods between renters count also PROVIDED you did not live in the house for one single day during said period of vacancy.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence or 2nd home, after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL POPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must add "real" value to the property. In other words, when  the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.


Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

That is great information, Carl. In the part where you say 100% business use, is that the section "Any Prior Business Use?" section? If not, what section is that?
Carl
Level 15

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

Basically if you work through the property (and any other assets listed there) in the assets/depreciation section, you'll have a box for business use percentage. That will be 100% business use. The only way it would be less than 100%, would be if you used the property for personal use *while it was classified as a rental*. While not unheard of, it's somewhat rare.
Also, your number of days rented day count starts from the day a renter "could" have moved in, which is usually the day you put that FOR RENT sign in the front yard. The day count also includes vacant periods between renters, provided you did not use the property for personal use for one single day while it was vacant between renters.
DS30
New Member

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

Yes as long as your rental was available for renting during the year, you claim power and water as utility expenses on your rental property even though it was vacant. Just include under the utilities section.

For example if the house was available for rent in Aug but not actually rented until Dec, you can include the utility costs as rental expenses from Aug until the end of the year. Any utility costs before the time the house was available for renting will not be deductible.

To enter rental information in TurboTax, log into your tax return (for TurboTax Online sign-in, click Here and click on "Take me to my return") type "rental income and expenses" in the search bar then select "jump to rental income and expenses". TurboTax will guide you in entering this information.

Carl
Level 15

Can I claim power and water as miscellaneous expenses while trying to rent my property when it was vacant?

That is assuming it was vacant between renters, and not for a period of time before it was in service, and available for rent.
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