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Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

I have been teleworking in Georgia 1.5 years for a major corporation where my assigned office is located a 100+ miles away. I have only gone into work once last year and once this year.  I can continue working the same job and moved to Texas (no official state tax; however, state collects taxes via property ownership at 3% value of house, which is similar amount to the Georgia State income tax).  I suspect even though my permanent residence is in Texas, unless I get my company to change my work address to an office in Texas, I will continue paying Ga State Income tax on top of my Texas property tax, is this correct?

 

If so, what classification must I request my company change me to? 
Remote working instead of Telework, or is the only way I will not pay Georgia State Tax is re-assign me to an office in Texas or take another job?

 

TIA for the answer!

 

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TomD8
Level 15

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

Actually CA's filing thresholds for MFJ under 65 with no dependents are $38,624 of total gross income OR $30,901 of CA adjusted gross income.  Exceeding either threshold gives you a filing requirement in California.  These numbers are for the 2022 tax year and of course may change from one year to the next.

 

Every state with an income tax has a filing threshold for non-residents.  The threshold amounts, of course, vary from state to state.  Pennsylvania's filing threshold, for example, is only $33 of PA gross taxable income.

 

A number of states have a reciprocal agreement with neighboring states.  A reciprocal agreement means that if you live in one of the states and work in the other, you only have to file a tax return in your home state.  Reciprocal agreements are much more common in states east of the Mississippi.  California does not have any reciprocal agreements.  Nor, of course, does Texas.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.

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Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

What date did you become a Texas resident (month/year)?

TomD8
Level 15

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

Your employer's location is irrelevant.  You're taxed based on where you actually (physically) perform the work.  If you're a Texas resident, you can only be taxed by Georgia (or any other non-resident state) on the income you earn from work you actually perform within that non-resident state.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

5 or 6 states charge income tax on some teleworkers, but Georgia is not one of them.

 

If you change your permanent residence to Texas, then starting on that date, you will only owe Georgia income tax on wages earned or paid while you are physically working or living in Georgia, such as if you work on-site a few days a year for essential meetings, training, and so on.  

 

In the year you move, you would file a Georgia part-year resident return that reports and pays tax on all your world-wide income up to the date you moved, plus any on-site income you receive after the date of your move.  In future years, you would file a Georgia non-resident return to only report and pay tax on Georgia-source (on-site) income. 

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

I think you're correct, my company, is showing I am working out of Georgia, if they cannot show that I am working out of Texas, I will take my new offer out of Texas which is their competitor. They have the same job listing so I will offer to work for my existing company if they can match the new company's offer. Problem is I have to respond to the new job within "72 hrs" Well its Thursday so my calculation is I can put it off until at least Monday especially since the verbal off is less than the emailed offer, I should be able to buy some time with that.

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

If your employer is unwilling to stop withholding GA tax, after you move, you'll just have to file a GA non resident return, each year,  to get a refund. It's a minor (usually) hassle, but you will not end up paying GA income tax for the days you physically work in TX. 

 

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas


@Hal_Al wrote:

If your employer is unwilling to stop withholding GA tax, after you move, you'll just have to file a GA non resident return, each year,  to get a refund. It's a minor (usually) hassle, but you will not end up paying GA income tax for the days you physically work in TX. 

 


There's no particular reason your Georgia employer can't process your payroll with no withholding (because you are living in Texas) unless they are simply stubborn, don't understand the law, or can't be bothered.  As mentioned, the worst that would happen is you have Georgia income tax withheld and get a full refund of all those taxes when you file your Georgia non-resident tax return (or nearly a full refund, if you end up working a few days on site.)  Not mentioned by my colleague, is that you could file a new Georgia withholding form to claim more exemptions and further reduce the withholding.  

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

@DoninGA wrote:

What date did you become a Texas resident (month/year)?

~May 15, 2023, I purchased a home in Texas and moved their shortly afterwards.

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

@Opus 17 wrote:

“If your employer is unwilling to stop withholding GA tax, after you move, you'll just have to file a GA nonresident return, each year, to get a refund. It's a minor (usually) hassle, but you will not end up paying GA income tax for the days you physically work in TX. “

 

I just returned from a weeklong business trip in Atlanta, Ga., where I did file an expense report with the company that will be reimbursed by the US government. I also have similar business trips regularly to California, usually for one to two weeks every three months. California and Georgia normally don’t tax me on this; would there be an exception to this since I was a partial resident for the first 5 ½ months of this year? One other question I have is the company is saying we may need to go to California for a few months on a business trip, is there a point California will begin charging state income tax? If so, would it be an accumulation of all income earned this year? I know working/staying overseas for more than a month throws you into a whole new tax situation, do states have this type of tax rules?

 

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas


@howjltx1 wrote:

@Opus 17 wrote:

“If your employer is unwilling to stop withholding GA tax, after you move, you'll just have to file a GA nonresident return, each year, to get a refund. It's a minor (usually) hassle, but you will not end up paying GA income tax for the days you physically work in TX. “

 

I just returned from a weeklong business trip in Atlanta, Ga., where I did file an expense report with the company that will be reimbursed by the US government. I also have similar business trips regularly to California, usually for one to two weeks every three months. California and Georgia normally don’t tax me on this; would there be an exception to this since I was a partial resident for the first 5 ½ months of this year? One other question I have is the company is saying we may need to go to California for a few months on a business trip, is there a point California will begin charging state income tax? If so, would it be an accumulation of all income earned this year? I know working/staying overseas for more than a month throws you into a whole new tax situation, do states have this type of tax rules?

 


I suspect @TomD8 will be able to answer more specifically as to California.

 

In general, you owe taxes as a non-resident to any state where you live or work (physically) temporarily when you are away from home.  Think about how many state tax returns a professional athlete must have to file.  Because your company is based in Georgia, Georgia is the state that will most likely want to tax you if you even spend 1 day working in Georgia.  If you worked 1 week a year, Georgia will want to see that 1/52nd of your income is declared as Georgia non-resident income and taxed in Georgia.  (2, 3, 4 weeks or more, whatever, Georgia will want to tax it.  Keep track of your days physically working in Georgia.)

 

California will be the same.  There may be exceptions for de minimis work (too little to worry about).  For example, I attend a work conference once a year for 3-4 days, and it's in California every other year.  I stay in a hotel, and although I am technically "working", I have never thought about filing a CA tax return (maybe I should?) .  I hope there is an exception for very short term things like that.  However, if you are regularly working in CA 1 week every 3 months, that may pass a threshold test, and certainly if you are working in California for more than a month, California will want to tax all your income earned in California.  Yes, it's cumulative, once you pass whatever threshold they have, they will want to tax all your days worked in California.  I just don't know what the legal threshold is.

 

Never paying taxes before for working short term in California doesn't mean you weren't supposed to pay tax, it just means you might have got away with it.  But as I said, I don't know if there is a threshold number of days. 

 

I don't understand your statement that "California and Georgia normally don’t tax me on this".  Do you mean your business reimbursement?  If you are or were a resident of Georgia, you must be paying Georgia state income taxes on your taxable income.  Reimbursements for work-related expenses are normally never taxable in any state or to the IRS if the employer uses an accountable plan--that means you provide receipts and other proof that the expenses were legitimately work related, and you are only reimbursed for your actual expenses and not over.

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

@Opus 17 wrote:

“II don't understand your statement that "California and Georgia normally don’t tax me on this".  Do you mean your business reimbursement?  If you are or were a resident of Georgia, you must be paying Georgia state income taxes on your taxable income

 

Yes on the business reimbursement, not only this, your whole response is correct.

I am paying taxes on my salary, but not on my business expenses, the company takes care of this.

TomD8
Level 15

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

@howjltx1 wrote:  "One other question I have is the company is saying we may need to go to California for a few months on a business trip, is there a point California will begin charging state income tax?" 

 

Yes.  Non-residents of California with California-source income must file a non-resident California tax return (CA Form 540NR) if their income exceeds CA's filing threshold for their particular filing status.  The portion of your salary that you earn from work you actually (physically) perform within California is California-source income.  The filing thresholds are based on income earned, not on number of days spent in California.

 

You can see CA's filing requirements and threshold amounts for tax year 2022 in this reference:

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/personal/residency-status/part-year-and-nonresident.html

 

>You will note that one of the threshold tables is based on your total worldwide income.

 

The reimbursement you receive for your business expenses is typically not taxable, but your salary of course is taxable.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

So, if I understand the link you sent correctly, with my filing status "Married/RDP filing jointly no dependents, both are under 65" my threshold is $38,624 of Salary earned while I am in California? In other words, I will begin paying California taxes on my salary after this amount. Would my retirement income I am get from Boeing be included in this calculation?

 

What this is saying is anyone having bonified business trips, even for the US Government, there normal salary above this threshold is subject to California tax. I find this hard to believe. If it is true, I am sure California would figure out who is staying for how long at California hotels and go after them. Something Imay is not correct here or I need to make sure I do not exceed that threshold.

 

Second thought update, no one in California is paying my income I am paid out of another state by my employer, so my income from California is $0.00.

 

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas


@howjltx1 wrote:

So, if I understand the link you sent correctly, with my filing status "Married/RDP filing jointly no dependents, both are under 65" my threshold is $38,624 of Salary earned while I am in California? In other words, I will begin paying California taxes on my salary after this amount. Would my retirement income I am get from Boeing be included in this calculation?

 

What this is saying is anyone having bonified business trips, even for the US Government, there normal salary above this threshold is subject to California tax. I find this hard to believe. If it is true, I am sure California would figure out who is staying for how long at California hotels and go after them. Something Imay is not correct here or I need to make sure I do not exceed that threshold.

 

Second thought update, no one in California is paying my income I am paid out of another state by my employer, so my income from California is $0.00.

 


No.  The first question is, "are you required to file?"  That is determined by the thresholds. If either the total income threshold, or the CA income threshold is passed, you must file a non-resident return.  

 

However, the question "how much of my income is taxed in California?" is, only your California-source income.  That is, only the income earned or paid while you are physically working or living in California.

 

Your second thought is also wrong.  For a W-2 employee, your income is considered California-source if you earn it by physically performing your work in California, even if your employer is located somewhere else.

 

Yes, California is very aggressive about finding people to tax.  Consider a football player for the New York Giants who plays one game in San Francisco.  Roughly 1/18th of his salary for that year (one game's worth) is taxable in California, and California will certainly be looking for that income.  People who are less public may be able to get away with not reporting California income, but that doesn't make it legal.  And the problem with tax returns is that the statute of limitations only starts when you file, if you never file, the statute of limitations never starts to run.  So legally speaking, if you work one month in California on a temporary assignment, 1/12th of that year's income is taxable in California, even if your employer never issues any tax paperwork to the state that would let them know.  If you roll the dice and decide not to report California non-resident income, you might get away with it, but if the state finds out, they can come after you at any time for the rest of your life, with a demand for tax plus interest and late payment penalties.  

TomD8
Level 15

Teleworking in Georgia, moved to Texas

@howjltx1 --

 

In support of @Opus 17 's correct answer:

 

If you look at the California tax publication to which I previously gave you a link, you will find the following sentences on page 6, under Income Taxable by California:

 

"Nonresidents of California are taxed only on income
from California sources."

 

"Wages and salaries have a source where the services
are performed. Neither the location of the employer,
where the payment is issued, nor your location when
you receive payment affect the source of this income."

 

I would add that Georgia taxes nonresidents on the same basis as California.  Any income from work you physically perform in Georgia is by definition Georgia-sourced, and thus taxable by the state of Georgia.

 

 

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
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