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Level 2
October 19, 2023
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State residency as expat??

  • October 19, 2023
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Hi - confused about state residency and state taxes.
 
Home state of NJ until sept 2022. Moved abroad since then.
Changed "mailing address" with some financial institutions etc to relative's home in NC.
 
Should I move all my addresses from NJ/NC to a virtual mailbox in FL? so i don't have to pay any state taxes for my US contract work and investment income? otherwise, tax forms like 1099 may show NJ/NC as the state.
 
Thanks!!

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Level 15
October 19, 2023
Alumni - Champ
October 19, 2023

Your state tax obligations are based on where you live and on where your income is sourced.

If you owe state taxes, you cannot avoid them by simply changing your mailing address to a PO Box in a no-income-tax state like Florida.  If that were possible, everyone would do it.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
Level 15
October 19, 2023

@aa2014  not knowing all the facts and circumstances of your particular case,  and hedging my bets , I would point that during my days as an expat in Brazil, I knew of a lot of American citizens, that moved their residency  to TX or FL ( having a mail box there, and opening a bank account to show closer connection to that state).  But they were working for a multinational entity.  I don't know if they were ever challenged  by the state of their earlier residency ( MI ).   I generally agree with @TomD8  that it may or may not work --- because there is always the issue of intent ( did you change residency because of  good reasons  or just to avoid/evade state taxation while in fact retaining closer connection to your original state of residence ? ).

Level 15
October 25, 2023

@pk12_2 as explained to @TomD8 , I do not have any state residency right now.

 

In this case, is it better to keep a taxable states mailing address (and have the onus to prove non residency to them) or non-taxable states mailing address (via virtual mailbox).


@aa2014 , whereas I applaud @TomD8 's complete  and very informational response to your case, at the same time I do recognize that many Expats' desire to not have to pay state taxes,  (with no active / passive income from a state ) to a state  where they resided before and to whom they have a very tenuous connection.  This is especially true   for states  taxing on world income and not recognizing even foreign tax credit.  Many have tried various ways of creating new connections   ( driver's license, bank account voter reg. , temporary  rental  etc. ) to states with no PIT  ( such as TX, FL etc. etc. ).   Fundamentally what one is trying to do is to create a "closer connection" to a new state.   How successful these strategies  are  is a open question.  There is nothing that prevents a person from doing this , especially if the Expat has no idea how  long the foreign stay is going to be and  whether  he/she would even return to the same state  at the conclusion of the foreign assignment.    And for those  Expats whom intend to be permanently abroad , this becomes even more  important.

 

What I am trying to get across is that there is no good/ bad/ best answer to your question, it is not a tax question and you should do what you think  meets your goals ( short  or longer term ).

 

Hope this helps

 

pk