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aamirin
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including federal tax return with state return when filing separately

We are filing married jointly federally, and my spouse and I each separately in CA and AZ, our states of residence. I have followed TurboTax instructions and prepared mock federal returns to generate state returns. When I file in CA, I need to include a copy of my federal return. Should I include my real filing-jointly federal return or the mock federal return that was used to generate the CA return? The latter has entries consistent with the CA adjustments form but is not real.

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MaryK4
Employee Tax Expert

including federal tax return with state return when filing separately

You will want to include a copy of the separate return used to prepare the California return.  Are you including community income on both returns?  

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aamirin
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including federal tax return with state return when filing separately

Virtually all the income is community income. CA requires that the federal return be included with the state return. Since the mock married-filing-separate return is not a real return, doesn't that mean I have to include the genuine married-filing-jointly return with the state return? True that most entries on the genuine federal return will be twice as large as the left column of the CA adjustments form because of the split in community income. I can see a value to also including the mock married-filing-separate return as a guide to the origin of the figures in the CA return. Thanks.

MonikaK1
Employee Tax Expert

including federal tax return with state return when filing separately

I would recommend including a copy of the actual Federal joint return since that is what was filed, and the mock separate return was used as the basis for the separate returns.

 

Each state has its own rules regarding this topic. For example, Arizona allows couples to file separately even if they filed a joint federal return, whereas Colorado does not. California doesn't allow it either, with the exception of active-duty military and certain nonresidents - see below

 

The California Franchise Tax Board's Form 540 Instructions state the following on this topic:

 

Use the same filing status for California that you used for your federal income tax return, unless you are an RDP (Registered Domestic Partnership).

 

Exception: If you file a joint tax return for federal purposes, you may file separately for California if either spouse was either of the following:

 

  • An active member of the United States armed forces or any auxiliary military branch during 2024.
  • A nonresident for the entire year and had no income from California sources during 2024.

 

Community Property States: If the spouse earning the California source income is domiciled in a community property state, community income will be split equally between the spouses. Both spouses will have California source income and they will not qualify for the nonresident spouse exception.

 

Contact the Franchise Tax Board if you are uncertain whether separate filing is permitted in your situation.

 

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aamirin
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including federal tax return with state return when filing separately

Any CA source income considered to be my wife's (who lives in AZ full-time) was well under the minimum filing requirements for CA, so I took that to imply that we could file separately in our states while filing jointly federally. I guess we will see how CA interprets that. My tax form has been mailed in with both the actual MFJ federal and the mock MFS federal.

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