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I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

The account from which I made the withdrawal has since been closed.  Does the repayment has to be in the form of "new money" being contributed to an eligible retirement account?  Alternatively, rollover/transfer money from another account to an eligible retirement account?

Contributing "new money" would likely come from post-tax money. In the event the taxes were already withheld from the distribution, it appears "new money" from out-of-pocket contributions would lead to double taxations.
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dmertz
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I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

Repayment is putting back the money you took out.  The money that you took out effectively went into your pocket, to the repayment must come from money that is in your pocket.  In this case, since the original account is closed you can make the repayment to an IRA instead of back to the 401(k) account.

 

The tax withholding is also money that effectively went into your pocket that you then used to pay taxes, so to repay all of the distribution you will have to substitute other money from your pocket.  The repayment is treated as a rollover.  If you have paid too much money to taxes after factoring in the repayment, you get a refund and that refund goes back into your pocket to replace the substituted cash.  Since the repayment results in a tax refund, the post-tax money goes back to being pre-tax.

 

In the end, if you repay all of the distribution, everything will essentially be back to where it would have been had you not taken the distribution in the first place.  Your total balance in retirement accounts will be increased back to where it would have been and the cash in your pocket will be reduced back to where it would have been.

 

Think of this as having the same effect as a normal 60-day rollover of a retirement distribution except that you have up to 3 years to complete the rollover and your tax return is required to include Form 8915-E to handle it.

 

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dmertz
Level 15

I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

Repayment is putting back the money you took out.  The money that you took out effectively went into your pocket, to the repayment must come from money that is in your pocket.  In this case, since the original account is closed you can make the repayment to an IRA instead of back to the 401(k) account.

 

The tax withholding is also money that effectively went into your pocket that you then used to pay taxes, so to repay all of the distribution you will have to substitute other money from your pocket.  The repayment is treated as a rollover.  If you have paid too much money to taxes after factoring in the repayment, you get a refund and that refund goes back into your pocket to replace the substituted cash.  Since the repayment results in a tax refund, the post-tax money goes back to being pre-tax.

 

In the end, if you repay all of the distribution, everything will essentially be back to where it would have been had you not taken the distribution in the first place.  Your total balance in retirement accounts will be increased back to where it would have been and the cash in your pocket will be reduced back to where it would have been.

 

Think of this as having the same effect as a normal 60-day rollover of a retirement distribution except that you have up to 3 years to complete the rollover and your tax return is required to include Form 8915-E to handle it.

 

I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

Thank you 

I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

if your 401k is closed you cant pay it back.

If you changed employers and now have a new 401k there, your present employer 

might take a "payback" amount.

You'll have to discuss with your HR Dept.

you have three years to pay it back

You must have been impacted by COVID in 2020.

I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

sine you can rollover a 401k to an IRA

probably you can payback your 401k COVID distribution  into an IRA within three years.

Some other guru may comment as to whether that is an option.

 

@dmertz 

dmertz
Level 15

I took a CARES Act distribution from my 401k. What exactly is considered repayment of the withdrawal? I understand that 401k payroll deferral is not considered repaymen

Yes, a CRD paid from a 401(k) can be repaid to an IRA.  That was indicated in the answer I provided above.

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