42417
turbotax icon
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Announcements
Attend our Ask the Experts event about Tax Law Changes - One Big Beautiful Bill on Aug 6! >> RSVP NOW!
Close icon
Do you have a TurboTax Online account?

We'll help you get started or pick up where you left off.

x
Do you have an Intuit account?

Do you have an Intuit account?

You'll need to sign in or create an account to connect with an expert.

1041 is for more than $600 after death before distribution to beneficiaries, but it starts on Date of Death, and rest of year prior to death is on final 1040, yes?

True but frankly I have not seen the IRS make these assessments for Estates that were under $1 million or more -  The IRS almost ignores Trust and Estate filings of small dollar amount. - Check my comment elsewhere about just how bad it is.
If this posted response is useful to you, please click on the upraised hand in the lower left of this post. Thank you. Scruffy Curmudgeon--PFFM/ IAFF, retired FireFighter/Paramedic - Locals 718/30, Veteran USAR O3 AIS/ASA '65-'67


NOT INTUIT EMPLOYEE
USAR 64-67 AIS/ASA MOS 9301 - O3

- Just donating my time
**Say Thanks by clicking the thumb icon in the lower left corner -it means nothing but makes those than answer feel wanted.

1041 is for more than $600 after death before distribution to beneficiaries, but it starts on Date of Death, and rest of year prior to death is on final 1040, yes?

@tagteam  A close friend of mine was until retirement the Lead or Senior Agent in the Estate Tax and Trust division.  I brought to him the following true example of just how poorly the Service handles 1041 filings.  

An attorney for a family [yup, another one who should never touch estate work] set up bypass marital trusts for a couple.  He filed SS-4's for the two Revocable Living Trusts and received CP-575's for them.  [Don't comment, I know!] He then had the couple transfer their assets in to accounts registered in the names of the trusts and the account registrations at brokerages and mutual funds used these EINs and not the personal SSNs.

For 20 or more years Forms 1099-DIV/INT/B were filed against the EINs and not against the SSNs.  For 20 years or more no 1041s were filed [yes I know, in fact as disregarded entities, but you get the picture].  For 20 years the Service never questioned the sizable income being reported by payers with no corresponding filings of that income.

I got involved when the first of the couple passed away and the attorney attempted to file a Form 1041 using the EIN.  I spent at least a month with Ogden Entity Division getting the EIN reactivated - as the Service deactivated the EIN for lack of filing but never ever chased the income!
If this posted response is useful to you, please click on the upraised hand in the lower left of this post. Thank you. Scruffy Curmudgeon--PFFM/ IAFF, retired FireFighter/Paramedic - Locals 718/30, Veteran USAR O3 AIS/ASA '65-'67


NOT INTUIT EMPLOYEE
USAR 64-67 AIS/ASA MOS 9301 - O3

- Just donating my time
**Say Thanks by clicking the thumb icon in the lower left corner -it means nothing but makes those than answer feel wanted.

1041 is for more than $600 after death before distribution to beneficiaries, but it starts on Date of Death, and rest of year prior to death is on final 1040, yes?

 

Unlock tailored help options in your account.

message box icon

Get more help

Ask questions and learn more about your taxes and finances.

Post your Question