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Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

My daughter (19) received a 1099-Q for 529 withdraws directly to the school (OHIO) to cover her Cosmetology program tuition. She will file a tax return in 2017. I can also claim her as a dependent on my return. Who's tax return reports the 1099-Q information?  Also there are earnings on the 1099-Q.  Why are there taxable earnings when this was used for tuition and program costs? 


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Hal_Al
Level 15

Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

She reports the 1099-Q, since it's in her name and SS#.

She may have received a form 1098-T, from the school in her name & SS#. That may go on your return, since she is your dependent.

It's complicated. For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 

The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the QTP. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 

Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free

60%x600= $360

You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. It will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

Hi,

 

Great answer, but if I missed it, Where on students return do I enter the educ expenses to make the distribution earning NOT taxable. Thanks!

Hal_Al
Level 15

Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

Q. Where on students return do I enter the educ expenses to make the distribution earning NOT taxable. 

A. Nowhere.  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. 

 

The TurboTax interview is complicated and it's easy to make mistakes. Since you know that none of the distribution is taxable, just don't enter the 1099-Q, at all. On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

 

That said, you enter the 1099-Q, in TT, first, then you enter the educational expenses in the educ expenses section.  TT, theoretically, matches them up.  But, throw in scholarships and tax credits and the calculations get complicated.

Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

Hi,

 

Thanks, I see it in the fine print Instructions on 1099-q.

 

It's a little "scary" to not enter 1099 numbers. Crosses fingers, hit's file return key.   Haha.

Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

Sort of following. Question: in the example where are you getting 3000/5000 numbers??

Hal_Al
Level 15

Who files 1099-Q and why are earnings taxable when used for tuition?

Q. where are you getting 3000/5000 numbers??

A.  See red numbers in example.  $3000 is your  net qualified  educational expenses (QEE).  $5000 is your distribution from the 529 plan.   So, $2000  (5000 - 3000) of the distribution in non qualified. 

 

Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000 5000 = 60% of the earnings are tax free

60%x600= $360

You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)

 

Alternatively: 2000 non qualified distribution divided by 5000 total distribution (2000 / 5000) = 40% of the distribution is non qualified

40% x $600 earnings (box 2 of 1099-Q) = $240 of taxable income.

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