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Ncddnedd
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took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

 
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Hal_Al
Level 15

took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

 "took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn"

 

If that's the case, the plan administrator made a mistake. But, that's unusual.  But it also usually doesn't matter.

 

You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip! 

References:

  1. On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 
  2. IRS Pub 970 states: “Generally, distributions are tax free if they aren't more than the beneficiary's AQEE for the year. Don't report tax-free distributions (including qualifying rollovers) on your tax return”.
Hal_Al
Level 15

took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax. 

BrittanyS
Expert Alumni

took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

If the name and SSN does not match, then an error was made on the form.   You can request the issuer to correct the form.  However, if the student's educational expenses support the amount of the withdrawals, you can leave the 1099-Q off your return.

 

Per the IRS, "To determine the tax-free amount, multiply the interest part of the proceeds by a fraction. The numerator (top part) of the fraction is the AQEE you paid during the year. The denominator (bottom part) of the fraction is the total proceeds you received during the year."

 

For more information see the link below:

 

 

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Ncddnedd
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took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

I am the account holder money was not used for education. The name is mine the benificary is my son. The box not the beneficiary is checked 

Ncddnedd
New Member

took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

 

Monies not used for education was sent to me I am account holder it has my name as recirpent but ssn box has sons ssn he is benifucary 

KrisD15
Expert Alumni

took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

Yes, a 529 Account has an owner (usually the parent) and a beneficiary (the student).

Either can make a withdrawal. 

The withdrawals are reported on Form 1099-Q.

 

Whoever's Social Security Number is listed as the RECIPIENT on the 1099-Q is responsible for reporting the 1099-Q and any tax due on the distribution. 

 

 

 

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took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

I can tell you understand this so I am going to give you my numbers so you can tell me what to do.

1098T I put on my return, the parent, even though it has my college dependent son's name and social: Box 1 had 18,215 and Box 5 had 16,198. Box 8 is checked because he was full time.

I qualified for American Opportunity Credit for $802.

I have used 529 plan to pay for all of his qualified educations expenses.

I put the 1099Q that had my social and name onto my return and it dropped my refund from $3127 to $2809 which still put me ahead.

Then I did a return for this college son because he also received a 1099Q with his name and social. That is all he has. It resulted in him owing $447. This made the credit still worth it but by only $37.

I then decided to play around and see what would happen if I added his 1099 Q to my return along with the other 1099 Q in my name. My refund then went from $2809 to $2802. 

I am really confused.

Here is information from the Q's

My Q: Box 1 4666.96 Box 2 2082.06 and Box 3 2584.90

Here is my son's Q: Box 1 6490 Box 2 2875.89 and Box 3 3614.11

Please note: this just dawned on me. My Q is for a different college that he transferred to in January so there is no 1098 T yet because it is for 2025 semester. I had to pay for the semester in December 2024 so he could lock in his classes.

His Q was for the 2024 semester that matches up with the 1098 T.

I will make sure this mess does not ever happen again. I did not know this would impact me so much!

Thank you,

Juile

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

took money out of 529 account 1099q has my name as recipient but has sons ssn

How much room & board? 

How much for books and a computer?

 "I had to pay for the 2025 semester in December 2024 so he could lock in his classes". How much was that? It has to be reported/used on your 2024 tax return (because it was paid in 2024). You cannot wait and use it next year. 

 

I take " That is all he has" to mean he has no other income. Some of his scholarship may be reportable income (but probably not actually taxed).

 

"His Q was for the 2024 semester that matches up with the 1098 T."  What does than mean?  The numbers don't agree with that statement.

 

We're gong to get you $2500 AOC, not $802 (unless your income is over $80K, $160K married)

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