I paid 'Qualified' expenses for a beneficiary who attends a university (it is very simple - she has no scholarships or grants). Since I am the account owner of her 529 plan, I claimed, and received, full reimbursement for these qualified expenses from the 529. Accordingly, I received a Form 1099-Q, correctly showing me as the "recipient" of the distributions.
Now, I am using "TurboTax Home and Business 2024" on a Windows PC. Under "Your Deductions and Credits" is a section called "Education", with a subsection called "ESA and 529 qualified tuition programs (Form 1099-Q)". As I correctly answer the questions in this section I am being asked to enter information from my Form 1099-Q. At no point does TurboTax ever ask if the distribution was qualified, but it obviously treats the distribution as being NON-qualified, because as soon as I enter the 'earnings' from the distributions those red numbers at the top (for taxes due) shoot up by many thousands of dollars, causing my pulse to shoot up even higher.
However, based on reading responses to other questions regarding Form 1099-Q, it seems clear that I would not be responsible for paying taxes on qualified distributions, or even to enter the Form 1099-Q into TurboTax, for this situation.
What am I missing here? Or, did TurboTax somehow completely forget to make it even slightly clear in their product that the User need not even bother with the 529-plan and Form 1099-Q related sections of TurboTax when completing their returns when distributions were 'Qualified'?
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"At no point does TurboTax ever ask if the distribution was qualified"
At some point, in the long interview, it tells you to be sure you enter your educations expenses (later) in educational expenses (1098-T) section.
But, better yet, just delete the 1099-Q.
You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit.
References:
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
There is $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax.
First of all, thank you for the informative reply. I now understand this much better - and believe TurboTax should make clear to all users that (as you stated) "You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution."
In my case (as I just learned today), one big missing piece was that I was never even aware of the creation of a Form 1098, since the institution makes it available only on the student's portal - which only the student (i.e., the 529-plan beneficiary) has access to. Thus, the user must first need to be aware of this, then ask the student to find it on their portal, and to send it to them.
But, if the user was not even aware that a Form 1098-T was generated, then they would not know to go after it. Thus, when they are using TurboTax, they may do (as I initially did), and not even consider to (as you say) "enter your educations expenses (later) in educational expenses (1098-T) section". If Form 1098-T was applicable to them, then it seems that would have been received. BTW, I do see the blue link, "What if I haven't received my 1098-T yet?" that the user can click; but, again, if the user did not even know that they should have received a Form 1098-T, then why inquire about it ?
Interestingly, my version of TurboTax states that the educational institution "would have sent it [Form 1098-T] to you directly". Again, I never received it - so I disregarded any mention of a Form 1098-T. It would make more sense to me if this line were worded something like "The educational institution may have sent Form 1098-T only to the beneficiary, so you may need to obtain this form from them".
Back to your statement "You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution". This looks like a good introductory line for TurboTax to add - right at the point where the user is about to take the same unfortunate path that I took. Fortunately, in my case, I realized that paying thousands more dollars did not make sense, and held off on filing until getting clarification.
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