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My dependent son (full time college student, age < 18) received a 1098-T (~$23,000 for tuition payment). I used my 529-plan (with him as the beneficiary) to send $10,000 directly to his school, hence, he received a 1099-Q (for the $10,000 amount) in his name.

 

Is my son required to file a tax return, since he received a 1099-Q in his name? He also has received a W-2 for a part-time job (box 1: $1,900. boxes 2 and 17, Federal and state tax withheld are both $0). In the previous years, I normally withdraw funds from the 529-plan to pay for the tuition. Last year, I use the 529-plan to pay the school directly for a portion of his tuition.

 

For the 2023 tax year, he still qualities for the AOTC, and I would like to claim this AOTC credit in my tax return. My question is may I enter the 1099-Q information in my tax return even though the 1099-Q shows him as the recipient? Or should I skip the 1099-Q form totally? I think Turbo Tax will ask me if I received a 1099-Q form.

 

I also have a dependent daughter (full time college student, age < 24) received a 1098-T (~$11,000 for tuition payment). I withdraw $8,000 from my 529-plan (with her as the beneficiary) to help the tuition payment and I received a 1099-Q (for the $8,000 amount) in my name.

 

My daughter also has a part-time job and received a W-2 (box 1: ~$4,000. boxes 2 and 17, Federal and State withheld are both $0). Is she required to file a tax return? If so, may I still claim for her life-time learning education credit in my tax return? I’ve claimed her AOTC credit for four years already.

 

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AmyC
Expert Alumni

Education Credits

Son:  1098-T box 1 $23,000 no mention of box 5. The Q does not need to be filed if used entirely on qualified expenses, such  as room and board. Tuck the Q into tax folder. This leaves more than the $4000 necessary to claim the AOTC.

 

He is not required to file a tax return due to his income level.

 

Daughter: Tuck the Q away since it went to room and board as well. She is not required to file and yes you can claim the lifetime learning credit.

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Education Credits

Q. Is my son required to file a tax return, since he received a 1099-Q in his name?

A. No, since you know that none of it is taxable, he has no additional  income to report.

 

Q. My question is may I enter the 1099-Q information in my tax return even though the 1099-Q shows him as the recipient?

A. No. If it goes anywhere (and it doesn't), it must go on his return, because he is considered the "recipient" when the money goes directly to the school.

 

Q. Or should I skip the 1099-Q form totally?

A Yes.   Say no, if TT asks if you got one (I don't think it will).

 

   You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. 

References:

  1. On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 
  1. IRS Pub 970 states: “Generally, distributions are tax free if they aren't more than the beneficiary's AQEE for the year. Don't report tax-free distributions (including qualifying rollovers) on your tax return”.

I also have a dependent daughter (full time college student, age < 24) received a 1098-T (~$11,000 for tuition payment). I withdraw $8,000 from my 529-plan (with her as the beneficiary) to help the tuition payment and I received a 1099-Q (for the $8,000 amount) in my name.

 

Q. . Is my daughter required to file a tax return?

A. No. Her earned income is less than $13,850 and she has no unearned income.

 

Q. If so, may I still claim for her life-time learning education credit (LLC) in my tax return?

A. Yes, if she is your dependent.  At first glance, it may appear that you only  have $3000 ($11,000 minus $8,000) of qualified expenses for the LLC. But, room and board and books and a computer are also  qualified expenses for the 1099-Q, even if she lives at home). The LLC is 20% of tuition up to $10K.  You can even consider making some of the 1099-Q earnings taxable (on her return) in order to get you the maximum LLC.  ($2000). See example below.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $16,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$10,000 used to claim the Lifetime Learning credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

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AmyC
Expert Alumni

Education Credits

Son:  1098-T box 1 $23,000 no mention of box 5. The Q does not need to be filed if used entirely on qualified expenses, such  as room and board. Tuck the Q into tax folder. This leaves more than the $4000 necessary to claim the AOTC.

 

He is not required to file a tax return due to his income level.

 

Daughter: Tuck the Q away since it went to room and board as well. She is not required to file and yes you can claim the lifetime learning credit.

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Education Credits

Sorry that I didn't mention that box 5 is $0 for both son and daughter.

 

When you said tuck Q away, did you mean to ignore the 1099-Q form? I believe if I enter the 1099-Q data  in TurboTax it will ignore it as well. 

 

For son, I will ignore the 1099-Q because it is in his name.

 

For daughter, I will enter the 1099-Q data as in the past years just to be safe and let TurboTax handles it.

 

Thank you!

Hal_Al
Level 15

Education Credits

Q. Is my son required to file a tax return, since he received a 1099-Q in his name?

A. No, since you know that none of it is taxable, he has no additional  income to report.

 

Q. My question is may I enter the 1099-Q information in my tax return even though the 1099-Q shows him as the recipient?

A. No. If it goes anywhere (and it doesn't), it must go on his return, because he is considered the "recipient" when the money goes directly to the school.

 

Q. Or should I skip the 1099-Q form totally?

A Yes.   Say no, if TT asks if you got one (I don't think it will).

 

   You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. 

References:

  1. On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 
  1. IRS Pub 970 states: “Generally, distributions are tax free if they aren't more than the beneficiary's AQEE for the year. Don't report tax-free distributions (including qualifying rollovers) on your tax return”.

I also have a dependent daughter (full time college student, age < 24) received a 1098-T (~$11,000 for tuition payment). I withdraw $8,000 from my 529-plan (with her as the beneficiary) to help the tuition payment and I received a 1099-Q (for the $8,000 amount) in my name.

 

Q. . Is my daughter required to file a tax return?

A. No. Her earned income is less than $13,850 and she has no unearned income.

 

Q. If so, may I still claim for her life-time learning education credit (LLC) in my tax return?

A. Yes, if she is your dependent.  At first glance, it may appear that you only  have $3000 ($11,000 minus $8,000) of qualified expenses for the LLC. But, room and board and books and a computer are also  qualified expenses for the 1099-Q, even if she lives at home). The LLC is 20% of tuition up to $10K.  You can even consider making some of the 1099-Q earnings taxable (on her return) in order to get you the maximum LLC.  ($2000). See example below.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $16,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$10,000 used to claim the Lifetime Learning credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

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