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Can you please help clarify 529 withdrawl limits for Room and Board for a year when first-time transfer student is starting in the fall?

My son is currently a full-time student attending a community college and living at home during the spring semester of 2022. In August, he is transferring to a university for the fall semester (full time) and will live in an off-campus apartment beginning in August. It's very confusing that the COA is for 9 months covering a 2-year span when 529 rules and taxes are calendar year.  I'm trying to figure out how much I can withdrawal from our 529 for room and board in 2022 and then again in 2023.      

 

Here are the facts:

  •  The Cost of Attendance (COA) published by the college is "$14,400 ($1050 rent/month, $550 food/month)", based on a 9-month budget Fall/Spring
  • Apartment Rent in downtown Chicago is VERY high and we will incur "room only" costs of $2,000/month for 5 months in 2022 (Aug thru-Dec) for a total cost of $10,000.

Questions:

  1. For 2022, can I withdrawal the full $10,000 for rent from the 529 without penalty even though the COA amount listed is for both fall & spring semesters? Or am I limited to a lesser amount?
  2. For 2023 when he is in school for both the spring and fall semesters, assuming the COA and apartment rent remains the same, what is the max we can pull from the 529 for Room and Board?
  3. It seems the IRS lumps "room and board" together collectively where the school is listing a total followed by breakout amounts. Assuming we will be limited to a total of $14,400 in a given year for room and board, does it matter if what I withdrawal is used solely for "room" since the rent is so high or do I need to limit in some way because the school shows the breakdown amounts?

Thanks in advance for any help and advice!

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Can you please help clarify 529 withdrawl limits for Room and Board for a year when first-time transfer student is starting in the fall?

Q. For 2022, can I withdrawal the full $10,000 for rent from the 529 without penalty even though the COA amount listed is for both fall & spring semesters? Or am I limited to a lesser amount?

A. You are limited to the lesser amount.  But you can count the community college's COA for the Spring term, even though the student lived at home.

 

Q. For 2023 when he is in school for both the spring and fall semesters, assuming the COA and apartment rent remains the same, what is the max we can pull from the 529 for Room and Board?

A. The college's COA.  The rule is: the lesser of actual cost or COA. 

 

Q. Does it matter if what I withdrawal is used solely for "room" since the rent is so high?

A. No. 

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

You have $1120 of taxable income  

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

Can you please help clarify 529 withdrawl limits for Room and Board for a year when first-time transfer student is starting in the fall?

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions. Your answers were very helpful!

Carl
Level 15

Can you please help clarify 529 withdrawl limits for Room and Board for a year when first-time transfer student is starting in the fall?

Here's some additional information you may find helpful in the future, to assist with keeping things straight.

Colleges work in academic years, while the IRS works in calendar years. So the reality is, it takes a student five calendar years to get that four year degree. With that said:

- Scholarships, grants and 529 distributions are reported in the tax year they are received. It *does* *not* *matter* what tax year the money was received *for*.

- Qualified education expenses (tuition, books, lab fees) and the other allowed expenses of room and board are claimed in the tax year they are paid. It "does" "not" "matter" what year is paid *for*.

Overall, it all "works out in the wash", literally! One thing I will point out through, is for the student's senior year of college. Pay for that last semester of the senior year, "BEFORE" the first semester ends. That's because the first semester of the senior year will be the 4th calendar year, and the last year you can claim the AOC, assuming you claimed it in the prior three calendar years.

If you wait until after Jan 1 when the 2nd semester of the senior year begins, you will not be able to claim the AOC (and possibly a few other credits I can't recall) if you claimed them already in the prior 4 calendar years.

 

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