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1098-T and 529 plan

Hi,

Why am I being taxed on my 529 plan distribution?  100% of the distribution was for qualified college education expenses.

 

My qualified expenses on the 1098-T I received from my son's college exactly match the amount of my distribution on the 1099-Q from my investment institution?

 

My 1098-T box 1 is $33,995.  My 1099-Q is: box 1 $33,995, box 2 $12,140, box 3 $21,855.

 

But when I enter the amounts from the 1098-T, and the 1099-Q into TT, my tax owed increases by $1,322.

 

Please help

 

Thanks

 

 

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MinhT1
Expert Alumni

1098-T and 529 plan

Do you have scholarships reported in box 5 of form 1098-T?

 

Please revisit the entry of both forms 1099-Q and 1098-T.

 

If you have sufficient educational expenses (including room and board) to cover the 529 distribution, you can just not report the 1099-Q at all.

 

You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient read: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit.

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MinhT1
Expert Alumni

1098-T and 529 plan

Do you have scholarships reported in box 5 of form 1098-T?

 

Please revisit the entry of both forms 1099-Q and 1098-T.

 

If you have sufficient educational expenses (including room and board) to cover the 529 distribution, you can just not report the 1099-Q at all.

 

You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient read: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit.

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Hal_Al
Level 15

1098-T and 529 plan

There are three things you can do with your Qualified educational expenses (QEE):

  1. Allocate then to scholarships (so that the scholarship remains tax free)
  2. Use them to claim an education credit
  3. Allocate them to the 529 distribution (1099-Q) so that it will not all be taxable

TurboTax allocates QEE, in that order, until you tell it otherwise.

One possibility is that TurboTax allocated part of your dependent's college expenses to claim the Tuition credit, even if you are not eligible or otherwise did not claim it. That reduces the amount that can be used to claim the  529 earnings, shown on the 1099-Q, as being totally tax free. Go through the entire education interview until you reach a screen titled "Your Education Expenses Summary".  Click edit next to the student's name. That should take you to a screen “Here’s your Education Summary”. Click edit next to “Education Information”. When you get to the screen titled “Amount Used to Calculate Education Deduction or Credit”, verify the amount you want to use or change it.  You may reach that screen sooner.

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

You have $1120 of taxable income  

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

 

 

 

 

1098-T and 529 plan

We have no ($0) Scholarship reported in box 5 of the 1098-T.

 

The total education expenses equal $33,995.  The distribution from my 529 plan equals $33,995.  I intentionally took distributions that exactly match the qualifying charges from my son's university so I would not have an excess distribution.  

 

Turbo tax is adding $3,572 to my taxable income (on line 9 of my 1040).  The $3,572 is pulled from form 5329.  TT is calculating this from the student information worksheet.  

 

On my 1099-Q the gross amount (box 1) is $33,995.  The earnings (box) 2 is 12,140, and the Basis (box 3) is 21,855.  TT is calculating taxes owed on the earnings portion of my distribution ($12,140).  It is also making a $10,000 adjustment to my qualified expenses, and calculating that my adjusted qualifying education expenses are only 23,995.

 

I thought one of the primary benefits of the 529 is that the earnings in the account are not taxable.

 

I still don't understand why I am being taxed $1,322 on my 529 plan distribution when my qualifying expenses (as reported in my 1098-T) exactly equal the distribution on my 1099-Q.

 

Thank you for your help

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

1098-T and 529 plan

The error is in the "$10,000 adjustment to my qualified expenses".  TT assumes you want/need to use $10,000 of expenses to claim a tuition credit. 

 

As others have said, you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient adjusted educational expenses. The 1099-Q and the  1098-T are only  informational documents. The numbers on it are not required to be entered onto your (or your student's) tax return.

 

 

If you feel more comfortable having TT produce the work sheet, there are some things you can try:

 

 Go through the entire education interview until you reach a screen titled "Your Education Expenses Summary".  Click edit next to the student's name. That should take you to a screen “Here’s your Education Summary”. Click edit next to “Education Information”. When you get to the screen titled “Amount Used to Calculate Education Deduction or Credit”, verify the amount you want to use or change it to 0 (or 4000 if you are eligible for the tuition credit).

 

Instead, in the education interview, you may reach a screen titled "Choosing a larger education Credit". Verify that TT has entered $10,000 (the amount needed to get the maximum LLC) in the box on that page. In your case, change it to 0 (or 4000)

 

PLAN C.  On the Student Information Worksheet (abbreviated Student Info Wk on the forms list), go to part VI and change line 17 (“Used for credit”) to 0 (or 4000 ). Make the change in the first column.  That will automatically change the other columns.

1098-T and 529 plan

thanks.  I feel more comfortable reporting the info on my taxes.  I followed your guidance, and it worked.  Thank you

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

1098-T and 529 plan

Thanks for the feedback.  You're not really reporting any info on your taxes.  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms.   You're just generating a calculation worksheet (actually two worksheets) for your own records.  The worksheets are not sent to the IRS.

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