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bob16
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The Federal review complains about schedule c line 51 but I can't find the source of the entry

For a car used in business (10%) but given away in 2016. The depreciation is too high
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MichaelDC
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The Federal review complains about schedule c line 51 but I can't find the source of the entry

Depreciation assumes that assets used to generate business income will wear out, get used up, or become increasingly obsolete over a period of time. For taxation purposes, depreciation lets you deduct the "used up" portion of that asset's cost every year, until the entire cost is used up or the business no longer owns the asset.  You cannot claim more in depreciation than the value of the item. In this case, your vehicle.

The prior AMT depreciation would be the same as the prior regular depreciation if the depreciation was calculated by using the standard mileage deduction.  

It would also be the same if, when you depreciated the vehicle using the actual costs (fuel, tires, etc). rather than the standard mileage, you chose a straight line depreciation method.  (This is explained in the screens entitled "Let's Figure Out How to Deduct Your Vehicle Costs" and "Section 179 Deduction" which includes a link to on-demand tax guidance about the depreciation deductions you had used for your vehicle in the past).

If you don't remember, that's ok, use the defaults presented in TurboTax.  If you've had the vehicle longer than 5 years, it would be fully depreciated under both the regular and AMT methods.

To get back to this in TurboTax as an employee:

1.       Open (continue) your return in TurboTax.

(To do this, sign in to TurboTax and click the orange Take me to my return button.)

2.       In the search box, search for 2106 and then click the "Jump to" link in the search results.

3.       At the Tell us about the occupation you have expenses for screen, enter your occupation.

4.       Click Continue and follow the onscreen instructions.  

If you land on the Job-Related Expenses Summary screen instead, you can either Edit expenses for an existing job

Try these fixes:

Go back to the sale of vehicle and delete any numbers in the AMT section.

or

In Smart check, when the worksheet is displayed, right click on the field (Line 50 and/or Line 51).  From the dropdown menu displayed, select "Override".  You should then be able to enter any number that you want.

Refer to IRS Publication 946, How to Depreciate Property if you require more detailed, in-depth information.

To get back to this in TurboTax as Self-Employed:

·         Under "Business Income and Expenses" select start/update next to Profit or Loss from Business

·         Click  "edit" on the Business Summary

Scroll down to business expenses section, and click update next to "Business Vehicle Expense"

Again, go back to the sale of vehicle and delete any numbers in the AMT section.

or

In Smart check, when the worksheet is displayed, right click on the field (Line 50 and/or Line 51).  From the dropdown menu displayed, select "Override".  You should then be able to enter any number that you want.

Note: If you have an error for Form 8824 line 25: You have been allowed to deduct depreciation, either as part of the standard mileage or actual expenses. They want to know what that amount would be if the vehicle was 100% business use. The easiest way to calculate it is to multiply the purchase value of the vehicle by 10% for the first year, 20% for any of the next 4 years you owned the vehicle. If you have owned the vehicle for more than 6 years, your depreciation will be equal to the purchase value of the vehicle.

 

Rhdh
Returning Member

The Federal review complains about schedule c line 51 but I can't find the source of the entry

We purchased the truck for business in 2006 and had to dispose of it in 2020.

We used actual expenses and mileage each year when filing tax return.

Company is a sole proprietor and business use is about 96%.

We fully depreciated it using Section 179

 

How are lines 51 and 52 on the Car and Truck Expense Worksheet calculated?

Why is it showing up as a gain on schedule 1 line 4.

The truck quit working so no monies were received when disposing of this vehicle.

ToddL99
Expert Alumni

The Federal review complains about schedule c line 51 but I can't find the source of the entry

Lines 51 and 52 of the Car and Truck Expense Worksheet report the depreciation you were legally allowed to claim on the vehicle under IRS regulations.  These numbers may differ from what you actually claimed, but the TurboTax program would have calculated your legally allowable depreciation when you entered the vehicle as a business asset.

 

Publication 946 (2019), How To Depreciate Property

 

If it is showing up as a gain on schedule 1 line 4 and you had fully depreciated the vehicle, you must have reported a positive value for the  "Sales Price"  (Line 44 of the Car and Truck Expense Worksheet)

 

You will have to review your entries in the Business Assets interview, where you reported the disposition of the vehicle, and make sure the "Sales Price" is "0".

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