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tenmile
Returning Member

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

I have an LLC that generates all my household income. I no longer have a W2 job. Should I continue to file the LLC with my individual return (married filing jointly) through a schedule C? Or should I opt to structure the LLC as a partnership and file separately for personal and business?

 

From my understanding, a partnership would be taxed at a lower rate than personal income. But would I create a double taxation situation since I take my income from the LLC?

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Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

A partnership will simply passes through income to its partners (or LLC members where the LLC is taxed as a partnership). There is really no advantage in terms of federal income tax liability.

 

 

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

Do you have a single-member LLC (i.e., you are the only member) or is your spouse also a member?

 

If your spouse is a member and you do not reside in a community property state, you will be treated (by default) as a partnership and be required to file a partnership income tax return (Form 1065).

rjs
Level 15
Level 15

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?


@tenmile wrote:

Should I continue to file the LLC with my individual return (married filing jointly) through a schedule C? Or should I opt to structure the LLC as a partnership and file separately for personal and business?


If your LLC is a single-member LLC you must report it on Schedule C on your personal tax return. If your LLC is a multi-member LLC you must report it as a partnership, unless you and your spouse are the only members and you live in a community property state. You can't change the tax treatment of your LLC unless you change the structure of the LLC. You can't "structure the LLC as a partnership" unless it has at least one other partner besides yourself.

 


@tenmile wrote:

From my understanding, a partnership would be taxed at a lower rate than personal income. But would I create a double taxation situation since I take my income from the LLC?


A partnership does not pay any tax at all. As tagteam said, the income from the partnership is passed through to the partners. The partnership income is reported on each partner's personal tax return, and is taxed at the same rates as Schedule C income.

 

TomD8
Level 15

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

For income tax purposes, an LLC with only one member is treated as an entity disregarded as separate from its owner, unless it files Form 8832 and affirmatively elects to be treated as a corporation.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8832.pdf

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
Carl
Level 15

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

A partnership or multi-member LLC can not exist without a minimum of two owners.  I get the impression you don't understand the different business structures. Therefore the below is provided. Note that you should seek professional help and assistance with getting educated on the best business structure for your specific and explicit situation, and help in setting it up. Especially if your state taxes personal income.

 

Sole Proprietorship – This is a business with one owner, and only own owner. There are no other investors or share holders. This type of business is considered a “disregarded entity” by the IRS. All income and expenses for the business are reported on SCH C as a physical part of the owner’s personal tax return. Again, a sole proprietorship has only own owner. Depending on what state the business is in, registration is not required at the state level. But it may be required at the county, town, or other level of government below the state. For example, your county may require you to register and obtain a county issued Occupational License, which authorizes you to conduct business only within the jurisdiction of the authority that issued the Occupational License. This is most often required when the county, city or other authority below the state taxes personal income or imposes a tangible property tax on business assets utilized to produce business income.

Single Member LLC - This is a business with one owner, and only own owner. There are no other investors or share holders. This type of business is considered a “disregarded entity” by the IRS. All income and expenses for the business are reported  on SCH C as a physical part of the owner’s personal tax return. Again, a single member LLC has only own owner. This type of business is required to be registered at the state level, weather that state taxes personal income or not.  Additionally, this type of business may also be required to obtain an Occupational License for the county(s), city(s) or other more localized jurisdictions within that state, in which the business will be operating in.

Multi-Member LLC – This is a business with more than one owner.  It’s also the exact same as a Partnership (for tax purposes) This type of business also has to register at the state level, and may also be required to obtain an Occupational License from more localized jurisdictions within the state, in which that business will operate.  This type of business will file its own physically separate tax return with the IRS (and state if applicable) referred to as a Partnership Return, on IRS Form 1065. When completing the 1065 (using TurboTax Business) the business will issue each individual owner a K-1 reporting the income (or loss) of each owner. Each owner will use this K-1 to complete their personal return. So an owner can’t even start their personal return, until after the 1065 Partnership Return has been complete, filed, and all K-1’s issued to all owners.

In the community property states of Louisiana, Arizona, California, Texas, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, and Wisconsin if you have a multi-member LLC where there are only two owners, those two owners are legally married to each other, and those two owners will be filing a joint 1040 tax return, they have the option of splitting all business income and expenses down the middle and each partner reporting their share of the business income/expenses on a separate SCH C for each tax filer on the joint return. That means your joint 1040 return will have two SCH C’s included with it – one for each owner. But this can present its own problems in the event of divorce, separation. The issues can become even more compounded upon the death of one of the owners. If that deceased owner’s will does not pass all assets to the surviving partner, then that surviving partner can find themselves in a tax hell, not to mention the problems that can arise with the “new” owner or owners.

LLC “Like an S-Corp” – For tax purposes only (and I reiterate: FOR TAX PURPOSES ONLY!!!!!) one can elect to have the IRS treat their single member LLC or multi-member LLC “like an S-Corp” ****FOR TAX PURPOSES ONLY!!!!!****  This means your business is treated like and considered to be a physically separate taxable entity. This is accomplished by filing IRS Form 2553 – Election by Small Business Corporation. This allows you to act as if your single member LLC or multi-member LLC is an S-Corp. But understand that if you want the IRS to treat your LLC like an S-Corp, then the business “must” act like an S-Corp, and follow all the laws, rules and regulations required of an S-Corp by whichever state your LLC is registered in. All business income and expenses is reported on IRS Form 1120-S – Income Tax Return For An S-Corporation. The S-Corp will then issue each owner, investor and/or shareholder a K-1 which they will need before they can even start their personal tax return.  Unlike a single member LLC which is considered a disregarded entity for tax purposes, an LLC that has filed form 2553  “is” considered and treated like a separately taxable entity.

LLC “Like a C-Corp” – For tax purposes only (and I reintereate: FOR TAX PURPOSES ONLY!!!!!) one can elect to the the IRS treat their single member LLC or multi-member LLC “like a C-Corp” ****FOR TAX PURPOSES ONLY!!!!!**** This means your business is treated like and considered to be a physically separate taxable entity. This is accomplished by filing IRS Form 8832 – Entity Classification Election. This allows you to act as if your single member LLC or multi-member LLC is a Corp. But understand that if you want the IRS to treat your LLC like a C-Corp, then the business “must” act like a C-Corp and follow all the laws, reules and reguations required of a C-Corp by whichever state your LLC is registered in. All business income and expenses is reported on IRS Form 1120 – IU.S. Corporation Income Tax Return.

S-Corp – This type of business is registered at the state level and must conform to the laws, rules, regulations and ordinances of that state which apply to an S-Corp. All business income and expenses is reported on IRS Form 1120-S – Income Tax Return For An S-Corp.  The S-Corp will then issue each owner, investor and/or shareholder a K-1 which they will need before they can even start their personal tax return.  Unlike an LLC which is considered a disregarded entity for tax purposes, an S-Corp  “is” a separately taxable entity, and therefore files its own physically separate tax return and issues K-1’s to all owners, officers, investors and shareholders.

C-Corp - This type of business is registered at the state level and must conform to the laws, rules, regulations and ordinances of that state which apply to a C-Corp. All business income and expenses is reported on IRS Form 1120 – Income Tax Return For A C-Corp.   A C-Corp  “is” a separately taxable entity, and therefore files its own physically separate tax return.

tenmile
Returning Member

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

Thanks for clarifying. What was confusing me was the the Colorado state tax rep said I could choose how I want to file. I previously filed individually, but she said I could choose to file as a partnership. 

tenmile
Returning Member

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

Thanks for the info. I tried to get a CPA last year, but he ghosted me. I'll have to try someone else. I was confused because the Colorado tax rep said I could choose to file individual or partnership. This situation is new to me because I've always had W2 income, but now switched to relying only on small business income. 

tenmile
Returning Member

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

Thanks for clarifying. What was confusing me was the the Colorado state tax rep said I could choose how I want to file. I previously filed individually, but she said I could choose to file as a partnership. 

Carl
Level 15

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?

she said I could choose to file as a partnership.

They probably mistakenly assumed that you and your spouse own the business together. Keep in mind that when it comes to taxes, there's really no business structure that will result in lower taxes in the long term end game. You will pay the piper sooner or later. Also be aware that tax considerations for what type of business you want is but a minuscule part of the equation. There are other legal considerations you need to get educated on too, that have nothing to do with taxes.

Should I file my llc as individual income or a partnership?


@Carl wrote:

They probably mistakenly assumed that you and your spouse own the business together. 


One of the questions in one of the first posts in this thread has still not been answered by @tenmile so it would be a mistake for that to be "mistakenly assumed". 

 

@tenmile Is, or is not, your spouse a member of the LLC?

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