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jburatti
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Wheres the fine line in the statute of limitations for collecting and receiving a tax refund?

Bear with me as this might get complicated and long...  In short, I amended my past 3 years returns and combined was expecting over $7000 in refunds. Understandably but surprisingly, I received notice that a large portion of this refund was being applied to past unpaid taxes on my wife's behalf prior to our marriage.  She has poor record keeping and doesn't exactly remember when or how much was owed in back and unfiled taxes.  She was laid off in June of 2008 and unemployed ever since.  She "thinks" the last time she filed was for year 2007 which resulted in money owed, but not paid (which doesn't seem right either because she was employed that year with W2 withholdings and a child dependent).  She received unemployment for 2 years after being laid off (and I'm positive she didn't file returns for those years and anything after, until adding her on my amendments listed earlier).  So, the IRS withheld $X from my expected refund stating it was applied to her 2007 tax due but when a check finally was received it was roughly $1800 LESS than expected, even after deducting the $X amount they stated would be withheld.  I am only assuming that is $1800 additional withholdings is from the years she received unemployment and did NOT file returns for those years this was "estimated" taxes due on it.  

SO... Is there any way to go back and have her actually file taxes for those unfiled years (2008&2009), incorporating child and other qualifying credits, reducing that "estimated" $1800 that was already withheld to an actual $500 (or whatever it may be after proper deductions)?  

BUT... this is where the "fine line" question in my title comes into play.  I know there is a statute of limitations of 3 years on being able to receive a refund, and 10 years for collecting a payment.  Lets say she files returns for 08 and 09 (years on unemployment) today, and that estimated amount due drops to only $500 after proper deductions. Since $1800 of it was already paid using withholdings from a recent refund, is the statute of limitations passed to receive a refund of the difference ($500 due - $1800 paid = $1200 refund).  OR would the statute start the date the estimated $1800 was paid (about only a week ago)?  

If I lost anybody in my explanation, to sum up in simpler terms, If I recently paid an "estimated" tax due requested by the IRS for tax years from 7 & 8 years ago that was unfiled, can I now officially file returns for those years and now receive a refund for the difference of the estimated already paid vs. actual due (bearing in mind that the payment was made only a week ago)?  

P.S.I know most responses will state for me to "ask my accountant" but unfortunately, being a family friend, he feels he is "too busy" this time of year to help out, in addition, he was the cause of having to amend my past 3 years taxes in the first place.  Honest advice from a tax pro here would be appreciated.  Thank you

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JaimeG
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Wheres the fine line in the statute of limitations for collecting and receiving a tax refund?

You can file the Tax Returns but you will not be allowed any refunds from withholdings or refundable Tax Credits such as Earned Income Credit. The IRS will not issue a refund on Tax returns that are filed more than 3 years from the original due date.

You mentioned above that they have already withheld a certain amount for those Tax Years that your spouse did not file a return. This sounds to me like the IRS has already created Substitute Returns on your wife's behalf. The Substitute Return is created by the IRS with the information that they have about your spouse's income on record. This information is then used to create a return sans Credits, Deductions, Exemptions, etc.

It can be a risky to file those returns because of the possibility of creating more liability. The IRS will not give you a refund for Tax Returns filed more than 3 years late but they will expect to get paid. If filing a Tax Return creates a liability greater than what you have already paid it is a valid debt.

jburatti
Returning Member

Wheres the fine line in the statute of limitations for collecting and receiving a tax refund?

Thanks for the info.  So what I understand now is that there is no way to get the difference back even IF filing those unfiled returns resulted in owing LESS than they "estimated".  If that is correct, it brings me on to my follow-up question...

What are the limitations on a "credit" being applied as opposed to receiving a refund?  Is it treated the same as a refund or differently?  For example... Hypothetically, If was aware of the debt beforehand and recently had her file those taxes BEFORE I filed the amended ones taking into account the EIC, child tax credit and other deductions, resulting in only owing $800 as opposed to the $1800 they estimated, would this "credit" be applied to her account, and only that $800 be withheld from the amendment, or was there nothing that could have been done at this point and the $1800 due is set in stone?

This also brings on yet another question... I understand that I can file for injured spouse relief and get "my portion" of the her taxes paid, but being this original debt is so old to begin with, is there any limitation for filing for this now?  

And that question brings on one last one...  Lets say I can qualify for injured spouse relief and get "my portion" back.  That would then leave her liable again for the portion returned to me.  NOW, would filing for injured spouse reset any 10 year limitations on the time that the IRS has to collect that debt?  Because after filing for injured spouse, there would be only a few months before the 10 year mark is reached on the oldest debt that was mentioned.  So technically, can I get my injured spouse refund, wait it out, then she's no longer liable either???

OK, sorry, one more question I just thought of...  I will be filing this years taxes as well within the next week or so and am anticipating about a $1000 refund.  Being that I will be filing for Injured spouse regarding the past taxes within a week or so of each other, Will one have any effect on the other?

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