Amending my daughters return after mine was rejected.

[Ryan51501]

@VolvoGirl No, it looks like it was 517 maybe?

Federal return rejection

A Dependent SSN in the return must not be the same as the Primary or Spouse SSN on another return where 'PrimaryClaimAsDependentInd' or 'SpouseClaimAsDependentInd' is not checked.

Reject Code IND-517-01

[Ryan51501]

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@Ryan51501 wrote:

I understand they don't know until it gets rejected. But the specific reason was listed by Turbotax. I understand it was passed to them by the IRS. All I'm asking is once they know the reason, and it is passed along to me, I would think they would mention "Hey, since this is the reason, you will no longer be able to e-file, even if you fix it"

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It's not necessarily true that you would no longer be able to e-file, so TurboTax can't tell you that. For example, the rejection could have been caused by you entering the wrong Social Security number for the dependent. In that case, you could correct the Social Security number and e-file the corrected tax return. TurboTax has no way of knowing the details of what caused the conflict. You are asking too much of the TurboTax software. It can't catch all possible errors, and it can't look at the other tax return that is causing the conflict.

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Thank you for the guidance on the reply quoting. 

[Ryan51501]

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No, this is not documented anywhere, as far as I know.

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So I guess I'm asking how everyone here is just like "Yup you have to mail it in now" if that isn't specifically stated anywhere. Is it just based on personal experience?

[rjs]

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@Ryan51501 wrote:
So I guess I'm asking how everyone here is just like "Yup you have to mail it in now" if that isn't specifically stated anywhere. Is it just based on personal experience

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I don't know about "everyone," but some of us have been answering questions here for 15 years or more, and some of us are current or former tax preparers. You learn a lot in 15 years, and you see a lot of common situations repeated over and over again. Your situation with your daughter is very common.

[VolvoGirl]

Error code 517

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/rejected-tax-return/fix-e-file-reject-in... 

[rjs]

@Ryan51501  Admittedly it's not crystal clear, but in the FAQ at the link that VolvoGirl posted for reject code 517, if you click on "My dependent info is correct and I want to claim an exemption" it does say that you have to file by mail.

[Ryan51501]

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@rjs wrote:

@Ryan51501  Admittedly it's not crystal clear, but in the FAQ at the link that VolvoGirl posted for reject code 517, if you click on "My dependent info is correct and I want to claim an exemption" it does say that you have to file by mail.

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@rjs Yeah, I do see that. Crazy rule. Ok, well I guess it's worth it. Have to go buy some ink for my printer first lol

Thank you for your help! 

And thank you @VolvoGirl, also!

[VolvoGirl]

By the way, when your return rejected you could have deleted your dependent and efiled.  Then amend your return later to add your daughter back in.  

[Ryan51501]

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@VolvoGirl wrote:

By the way, when your return rejected you could have deleted your dependent and efiled.  Then amend your return later to add your daughter back in.  

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I thought about that, but that would have reduced my return by a lot (for now), and ultimately I would have had to mail it in still, when I added her in, correct?

Or is that not correct? Could I just remove her for now and e-file, and then amend in the near future and still e-file the amendment? I guess I just assumed it would be the same situation, but maybe not since I wouldn't be "fixing" a rejected tax return.

[rjs]

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@Ryan51501 wrote:

I thought about that, but that would have reduced my return by a lot (for now), and ultimately I would have had to mail it in still, when I added her in, correct?

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Yes, you would have to mail the amended return. And the IRS currently says that it's taking more than 20 weeks to process an amended return (whether it's e-filed or mailed). I wouldn't recommend filing a return that you know is wrong, planning to amend it later.

By the way, have you established that you can, in fact, claim your daughter as a dependent, considering what NCperson said earlier? We've been focusing on the e-filing problem and not the requirements for claiming a dependent. You haven't posted enough information about your daughter for us to know whether you can legitimately claim her. Her age raises questions. You can use the tool at the following link on the IRS web site to determine whether you can claim your daughter as a dependent.

Whom May I Claim as a Dependent?

[Ryan51501]

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By the way, have you established that you can, in fact, claim your daughter as a dependent, considering what NCperson said earlier?

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Well, in 2022 she was 18 and a full time student, and she lived me while I supported her financially, more than 50%. 

So I think yes? I sure hope so, or this was all a waste of time lol

[Mike9241]

based on what you provided, and assuming the (no) joint return test is met, you can claim her.   If you went through the Turbotax dependent questions and correctly answered them, it should have not allowed you to claim her if she didn't qualify. 

there is a joint return test.

she didn't file a joint return unless there was no tax liability but merely filing joint to facilitate refund of taxes withheld or estimates paid. I know 18 seems young to be "married". But .................

The age at which a person can marry varies by state. The marriage age is generally 18 years, with the exception of Nebraska (19) and Mississippi (21). In addition, all states, except Delaware, allow minors to marry in certain circumstances, such as parental consent, judicial consent, pregnancy, or a combination of these situations. Most states allow minors aged 16 and 17 to marry with parental consent alone. 30 states have set an absolute minimum age by statute, which varies between 13 and 18, while in 20 states there is no statutory minimum age if other legal conditions are met. In states with no set minimum age, the traditional common law minimum age is 14 for boys and 12 for girls – ages which have been confirmed by case law in some states. In Tennessee a 10-year-old girl was married in 2001before the state finally set a minimum age of 17 in 2018.

[NCperson]

@Ryan51501 if she is a full time student, did you take the American Opportunities Tax Credit? worth up to $2500... she would have received form 1098-T, but that is really for your tax return.