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You don't enter the 30% value yourself...at least not how you appear to think.
You enter the total value of the appreciated stock in the Charitable Donations section....indicating that it was a stock as you start the entry as a Donation.
Then the tax software will do the limitation calculation, based on what total income you have entered up until that point. And it will re-calculate the 30% limitation itself as you add in more income.
BUT, the 2024 software is still being worked on and is not completed yet....so I have no idea if that section is working properly yet. Should be OK by late January of 2025, so I wouldn't necessarily trust anything entered now.
2023 desktop software works OK for those types of donations, so 2024 should do so too, eventually, if it isn't doing so yet.
Thanks. I'm going back to my 2023 return. TT did NOT consider that my donation of appreciated stocks held for more than one year to my DAF (donor-advised fund) was to a "30% charity".
I'm having a hard time recreating the donation on a hypothetical return.
Sometimes, the dialog asks to select whether or not it's a 30% charity (it mentions fraternal, veterans, or cemetery organizations, as I recall). The phrasing is not very clear, and it does not mention a DAF.
TT does NOT automatically use the 30% of AGI amount - somewhere, you need to tick a box because it's an unusual situation per TT.
You just indicate the Donor advised fund is a 50/60% charity in the follow-up question.
(The software only asks once as one of the follow-up questions, as to whether or not it went to any 30% fraternal orgs.....you need to say NO to that for a Donor Advised fund.....if you select the wrong one, you need to delete the donation entirely and start it over, so that the software asks again)
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In my Test 2023 tax return, I had an $85,701 AGI, & entered a donated $50,000 of appreciated stocks (long term), plus some $3k of cash. After answering all the follow-up stuff, and working all the way out to the main menu page....Then, in my 2023 desktop software, I switched to Forms Mode and saw that the 30% of AGI is calculated on the "Charity Limit 1" worksheet, lines 23-28 (with some math handwaving on those lines, due to the $3k of cash I had also donated to various charities), and the limited/allowed deduction value shows on line 27 and the unused carryover showing on line 28.
The resulting limit should also show up on the "Charity Contrib" worksheet, on line 2 of Part III.
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Yeah, I messed up the first time myself, indicating the donation was to a 30% charity, so I had to delete the donation entirely and re-enter it , indicating No to the 30% Fraternal question, to get it to calculate right.
A 50/60% charity is the generic designation you need to use, as-if you are donating cash.......but donating stocks is a somewhat hidden subset within the 50/60% charity area.....but you will designate it actually was a stock donation as a part of your donation entry, and the software takes it from there.
(When I had accidentally indicated a 30% charity, that ended up applying a 20% of AGI limit to the appreciated stock)
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I guess what can get mixed up to many/us:
1) 50/60% charity has that limit for cash, and has a 30% of AGI limit for LT appreciated securities as its own donation area subset.
2) A 30% Fraternal Org/charity has a 30% of AGI cash limit, and a subset at 20% of AGI for LT Appreciated securities.
I tacked on a bit at the end of my last post about the 30% mix-up.
Thanks for the follow-up, @SteamTrain.
That gives me some additional things to follow up with. Especially the notion of totalky deleting a contribution to re-enable the dialogue regarding the type of organization the recipient is.
I also, just saw in the Forms Mode worksheets one for a:
Charitable Org (Name of donor advised fund).
At the very bottom of that sheet are 4 questions. 1-thru-3 are empty
but #4 (a) 50% Charity was "X"-d.
That's probably from one of the follow-up questions in the interview and should probably be set as such.
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Not sure what 1-thru-3 are for, but perhaps situations for other donation types...I haven't touched them in case there are unintended consequences as I don't mess with my forms much...mostly to see where things end up.
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