trying to finalize but getting a redundent error. "Tax Summary: Stdliab is estimated" I click continue and it goes back to the error

[zvella48]

this product sucks and I hope the IRS gets abolished.

[tocguy]

End of the line for Turbotax. Genius execs handing the reins to AI when they have little understanding of what they're being sold. Just pathetic...

[MarilynG1]

The TurboTax error "Stdliab is estimated" (Standard Liability) means a deduction or input field is marked as an estimate rather than a final number during review. To fix this, delete the "Tax Summary" form in Forms Mode, or use the "Unmark Estimated" option in the Edit menu to remove the estimated flag.

@tocguy 

[tocguy]

Hmm, please do me the courtesy of noting which of these fields shown in the attached screen capture translates to internal variable "stdliab".

After that, please explain how that field is marked as estimated but not highlighted in the same fashion as all other estimated fields in Turbotax and how the User is expected to discern such.

Perhaps then we can begin to make progress on resolving this issue for the masses.

Namaste

[MarilynG1]

To find the amount marked as 'estimated' in your return, go to FORMS and scroll the list of Forms in My Return for a  red exclamation mark.  The field marked as estimated will appear red with red numbers.  You can right-click on the field to 'Cancel Override' and either let the field repopulate from its data source, type in the correct amount, or return to the interview for that entry. 

Common Areas to Check:

• Schedule A (itemized deductions)
• Form 1040-ES (federal estimated payments)
• State Estimated Taxes paid section
• Form 8889-S (HSA data)

@tocguy 

[tocguy]

@MarilynG1, thank you for demonstrating the issue being faced by TT customers, i.e., that the software is NOT showing which field is marked as estimated. My screenshot also shows that none of the fields were marked as estimated despite the software stating that it is. My intent in providing the screenshot is to demonstrate this fact. Thus, searching thru forms for something that is not present is indeed futile in this case.

In summary, the ambiguity of the instruction provided by the software remains unaddressed in terms of both the definition of "stdliab" that does not translate to anything recognizable at the User's visual interface AND that the software does not show any fields on the form using any highlighting/coloring.

I hope this is clear and that we can stop churning butter here...

TY and I look forward to your taking a proactive approach to resolving this software issue.

[RichLeja1]

I had the extact same issue.  

The problem is that there is no box on the Tax Summary form that was red that I could unmark estimated.  I even went through each box and checked to see if I could unmark it. Nothing.  The only way to fix the issue and get past the federal review was to delete the Tax Summary form from the return, which is no ideal since it had good information in it.  It is obviously some sort of coding error, since the tax summary can't have an estimated field if none of the other forms have an estimated field to draw upon.   I would appreciate some help with this.  

[MarilynG1]

No, the field that is marked as 'Estimated' will appear in FORMS; its not on the Tax Summary.  In FORMS, look for a form with a red exclamation and a red field with red numerals.  Right-click to 'unmark estimated'.

@RichLeja1 

[tocguy]

Technically accurate response. 99% useless however considering you are asking the Customer to open and inspect every form when theoretically the estimated info is available at the code program level but simply not shared with the User. There's a second point here that needs to made more obvious that highlights the real shortcoming of the TT code. That is, that IF a field IS marked as ESTIMATED on ANY of the multitude of forms then that form and its estimated field should MOST DEFINITELY also be SHOWN to the User during that same review process. Yet, as TT's responses have demonstrated here to date ... it is not shown to the User. They are instructed to go hunting for something that may not exist as was the case in my experience.

REASON: [TT please fill in the blank here]

[TheMarshal]

The ONLY form with the Red Exclamation point is the TAX SUMMARY form. I went through every form on my Return; no input fields were Red, indicating error/Estimated.   I haven't opened the software in a month, and now I have this issue on the Tax Summary saying that StdLiab and ItemLiab are incorrect. 
Pro Tip: Don't tell me, TAKE ME to the form with the issue. 
Since there is nothing that I can update on the Tax Summary page, I question the programming
Also, since i am debugging your code, I used the Errors Icon on the Forms Page, along with the Forms Menu "Select Next Error" and "Select Previous Error"  and I only ever jump to the Tax Summary form.  

In summary.  I get 2 Errors when I do the Error Check.  It shows me the Tax Summary Screen. It tells me that StdLiab and ItemLiab are incorrect.  Opening the Forms screen, the only form with Exclamations next to it the Tax Summary Screen.  Also, the Find Next/Previous Error do nothing but keep coming to the form.  I CHECKED EVERY LINE (even the blank ones) on that form and they are not Estimated. 
This is bad code. Leaving the User with an unsolvable error message.  

[TheMarshal]

Thanks to REDDIT, I found the Workaround for this bug.  What you have to do is switch from Itemized Deduction to Standard Deduction (or the reverse).  Whichever Deduction you have, change it to the Other Deduction. 

Then set it back to what you had.  This will clear that error, and you can now resume with an error free return. 

[user17759385414]

Exactly - absolutely terrible bug- no reasonable way to know what's causing it.
Months later, it is still not fixed.

[user17759385414]

Absolutely correct.  I have the same error.  Weeks later it is still not fixed.
Clearly a bug - it is completely unclear what STDLIAB means or how to go about fixing it. 

[user17759385414]

Nope.

[user17761084766]

If you go to your final review, it will show where something is estimated in one of your forms or a box is checked that should not be checked.