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Sold our WI lake property on 8/14 with estimated capital gain of $217,000 Must we file WI return for the capital gain and the estimated tax now? Also, estimated Fed.

Do I need to pay estimated WI capital gain now?
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Sold our WI lake property on 8/14 with estimated capital gain of $217,000 Must we file WI return for the capital gain and the estimated tax now? Also, estimated Fed.

Estimates are not needed (unless they are required at closing)  IF  you either didn't file a WI return for 2019  or  your tax liability was zero. 

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Sold our WI lake property on 8/14 with estimated capital gain of $217,000 Must we file WI return for the capital gain and the estimated tax now? Also, estimated Fed.

If you have a lump sum of income you will generally be required by the IRS to make an estimated tax payment by the due date for the quarter.  For property sold on 8/14, the payment is due 9/15.

 

Although the estimated payment is always required by law, you won't pay a penalty on your federal return so long as one of these three statements is true:

  1. you owe less than $1000 when you file your return
  2. your total payments into the system (from withholding and estimated payments) is at least 90% of your tax liability for 2020
  3. your total payments into the system (from withholding and estimated payments) are at least 100% of your tax liability from 2019 (110% of 2019 liability for certain high income taxpayers.)

So you may need to make a payment, it will depend on your other income and withholding and last year's tax return.

 

You will owe a penalty in Wisconsin unless you have paid into the state system at least 100% of last year's tax liability. That should mean that if you are not a WI resident and did not file a WI return last year, you won't be penalized this year for not making an estimated payment. 

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Sold our WI lake property on 8/14 with estimated capital gain of $217,000 Must we file WI return for the capital gain and the estimated tax now? Also, estimated Fed.

Estimates are not needed (unless they are required at closing)  IF  you either didn't file a WI return for 2019  or  your tax liability was zero. 

Sold our WI lake property on 8/14 with estimated capital gain of $217,000 Must we file WI return for the capital gain and the estimated tax now? Also, estimated Fed.

If you have a lump sum of income you will generally be required by the IRS to make an estimated tax payment by the due date for the quarter.  For property sold on 8/14, the payment is due 9/15.

 

Although the estimated payment is always required by law, you won't pay a penalty on your federal return so long as one of these three statements is true:

  1. you owe less than $1000 when you file your return
  2. your total payments into the system (from withholding and estimated payments) is at least 90% of your tax liability for 2020
  3. your total payments into the system (from withholding and estimated payments) are at least 100% of your tax liability from 2019 (110% of 2019 liability for certain high income taxpayers.)

So you may need to make a payment, it will depend on your other income and withholding and last year's tax return.

 

You will owe a penalty in Wisconsin unless you have paid into the state system at least 100% of last year's tax liability. That should mean that if you are not a WI resident and did not file a WI return last year, you won't be penalized this year for not making an estimated payment. 

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