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2019 tax return rejected - 8801 form update

Forum|Forum|6 years ago
March 2, 2020
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E-filed the federal tax return yesterday and today it was rejected. TT is saying that 8801 is being reviewed for updates and I need to wait for one week. If 8801 was pending updates, why did TT let me e-file? IRS doesn’t mention any recent updates to this form. So something doesn’t look right in TT’s explanation. Has anyone else experienced the same and do you have any more information on this?

Best answer by klehnhardt

The corrected Form 8801 is expected to be release later today (Release 20). You need to check on it this weekend.

You should delete the form in your return. When a corrected form is updated it is possible for some old calculations is still in the form. Deleting the form will allow only the corrected form to be loaded.

To delete a form off of your return you need to:

Select Tax Forms in the Black bar on the left side of the screen.
Select Tools from the drop down menu.
On the Tools Center Select Delete a form.
Locate the form on the list and select Delete.
You will be asked to confirm the deletion.

BillCampbell64

Level 2

I filed my federal and state tax returns this afternoon. An hour later they were rejected. TT sent me an email saying, "We are reviewing updates to Form 8801 Credit for Prior Year Minimum Tax. We expect to have the form released by approximately March 5th, 2020."

aftaibe

Level 2

Do the changes in the Form cause a reduced credit?

maxandpatsy

Level 2

The corrected Form 8801 is expected to be release later today (Release 20). You need to check on it this weekend.

To delete a form off of your return you need to:

Select Tax Forms in the Black bar on the left side of the screen.
Select Tools from the drop down menu.
On the Tools Center Select Delete a form.
Locate the form on the list and select Delete.
You will be asked to confirm the deletion.

Form 8801 line 25 is not populating with the value from either line 21 or line 24 now. This happened after this last weeks update to fix other issues that caused my return to get rejected due to a Turbo Tax bug. I see some indications on the forum that this is scheduled to be fixed in build 20 which was suppose to be released 3/7. What is the status? I have forced and updated and it is still listed at Version 19 on my PC, I have also deleted the form as instructed. This is getting borderline ridiculous because Turbo Tax is suppose to make it easy and quick. Meanwhile, I am stuck trying to get my much needed refund waiting on endless software updates. I feel bad for all the people that just accepted the last fix and didn't check. This new bug results in me losing over $4000 additional funds on my returns. Makes me question if I should just go line by line on my return now to see if Turbo Tax is giving Trump a raise at my expense in other areas. Here is the code for the software team if they are struggling Line 25 = MIN(Line 21 Field, Line 24 Field). Alternative: If (Line 21 <= to Line 24 then Line 25 = Line 21 Else Line 25 = Line 24). Should not take much debug and validation to make this happen before I have to switch to H&R Block. If you need me to stop by and code it in the language you are using let me know. I'll do it for free if I can get my refund this week!

cfleming04

Level 2

Yes! I received the same thing. Best part is when I log into my Turbo Tax account now, it says it can't find my file. When I call the 1-800 # I can't get past the menu. She won't recognize me. Is there even such a thing as real live help from Turbo Tax anymore? Did you speak with someone?

sidjain78Author

Level 3

I had a different issue earlier this year - my TT desktop started crashing upon launch after 02/12 update. This got fixed after next round of updates. The TT people who helped the most were on Twitter - i messaged Twitter Support and they were responsive and tried to help.

aftaibe

Level 2

I had the exact same issue. First, the status was rejected and then it says pending for both Federal and State. I can't get an answer whether this revision will reduce my credit. I don't know\w what to do.

leopa

Level 3

I had the same error. Phone support was really no help. I got an update today. Not sure this fixes the problem. My refund did not change. What am I supposed to do now? Resubmit? Turbotax did not walk me through any change. Very confusing.

fuzion

Level 2

I updated my TT and refiled again today, it was rejected again in less than an hour.

dshchmel

Level 2

You are not alone, the same happened with me just now, seems like promised update doesn't work

SNA

Level 2

I posted this in another area. So lets try here.

Can you clarify if the return was rejected immediately or if it was accepted first and then subsequently rejected.

Thanks

Mike

sbsanon

Level 3

Yesterday after getting the rejection notice with this error, I logged in and went through the flow again (with no changes), assuming that it was updated since it was March 5. But today it got rejected with the same error again. When I log in to turbotax it says "We are reviewing updates to Form 8801 Credit for Prior Year Minimum Tax. We expect to have the form update released by approximately March 5th, 2020." and there is a "Fix it now" button. (Same as yesterday.) This is rather confusing and misleading language, but I'm going to assume it means the updates aren't actually released yet and wait to see if something changes next week... It would be nice if they gave some more concrete and specific information!

dyj2003

Level 2

I got rejected once and followed the instruction to file again after re-typing the same info for amt on 3/5. Got rejected again this morning (after about 15 hours). I didn't see any 8801 form update, the rev date is still 03/02 at the bottom. It's very confusing.

fuzion

Level 2

Strange, my return was also accepted on the 3rd try. For both 2nd and 3rd try I did the same thing just clicking through the AMT credit section again.

Cgordon8

Level 2

I’m getting the same message! it’s a TT issue. NOT an IRS updating form issue because I called IRS. It says approximately March 5th it should be updated, however I did mine yesterday and it was rejected TWICE now. It would be nice if they would tell us when it’s ready to actually be filed instead of waisting everyone’s time. I’m not impressed with TT.

sidjain78Author

Level 3

Dear all,

I installed the updates this morning. Then went through the AMT credit again, checked for errors and e-filed the second time. In 30 min of second e-file, the federal tax return was accepted.

No change to the form, no change in the entries - nothing.

It was clearly a TT glitch that was resolved with their system update. TT is unnecessarily blaming IRS 8801 form - this form has had no updates in 2020. https://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/priorFormPublication.html?resultsPerPage=200&sortColumn=sortOrder&indexOfFirstRow=0&criteria=formNumber&value=8801&isDescending=false

Thanks to all those who responded to confirm this as a system wide issue. Good to all getting through the tax returns this year. TT has a lot of bugs this year and the staff is clueless.

bc-levy

Level 2

Like previous posters, I tried to file my returns earlier this week, which were rejected because

of form 8801. I updated TurboTax this morning, but because I did not see any change, I did not

submit my return. Instead, I called TurboTax support which was worthless and tried to blame the

8801 issue on the IRS. Later this afternoon, after reading the posts on this board, I went through form

8801 again and resubmitted. The Federal return was accepted within 40 minutes. This is the second year

in a row that TurboTax has bugs (last year, it did not keep track properly of estimated taxes paid during the

year and I wasted an entire day to get around this problem-- again the phone support was worthless).

TurboTax has some nice features, like downloading 1099s, but if these problems keep occurring, I will need to consider switching to TaxAct.

macdog

Level 2

For those who have had their federal returns accepted, I'd check again once TurboTax fixes the 8801 form. I entered exactly the same info into TaxAct and my Credit for Prior year AMT increased by $1,283 and my overall federal and state refund amount increased by $992.

I'm going to hold off resubmitting for a few days.