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cathy3
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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

I qualified for Covered CA as my income was low.
Can I report income on a monthly basis to avoid having to pay back.  Turbo tax is annualizing my income.
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MarilynG
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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

Unfortunately the rules governing the calculations on Form 8972 do use annual income amounts.  

You could consider making IRA contributions to lower your taxable income.

Here's some info you may find helpful:

How PTC is Calculated

How were these calculated?

This new tax credit works differently than most. The premium tax credit was available immediately when you enrolled in a plan through the Marketplace. It worked like a discount so you could get help paying for coverage throughout the year rather than having to wait until you filed your 2017 taxes. Payments of the premium tax credit went directly to the insurance company to pay a share of the monthly health insurance premiums charged to you. The amount was calculated based on what you estimated your 2017 income would be, along with how many people your plan needed to cover and where you lived.

Now that you're reporting your actual 2017 income, ZIP code, and family size, we used this info to calculate the discount you should've received throughout the year, and made the necessary adjustment. You may get more of a credit (this happens if you made less money than you estimated when you applied) or have to pay some of it back (this happens if you made more money than you estimated when you applied), but there are limits on how much you have to pay back.

For example, if you're a single filer and your 2017 income...
- was less than $23,540 you won't pay back more than $300.
- fell between $23,540 and $35,310, you won't pay back more than $750.
- fell between $35,310 and $47,080, you won't pay back more than $1,275
- was more than $47,080, you will have to pay back all of any premium tax credit you received in advance.

If you're a family of four and your 2017 income...
- was less than $48,500, you won't pay back more than $600.
- fell between $48,500 and $72,750, you won't pay back more than $1,500.
- fell between $72,750 and $95,400, you won't pay back more than $2,550
- was more than $98,000, you will have to pay back all of any premium tax credit you received in advance.

Is there a way to lower the amount of tax credit I have to pay back?
If you're eligible to fund a traditional individual retirement account (IRA) and do so before April 15, the contributions you make may lower your income so that you do not have to pay back some (or all) of the advance tax credit you received.

Here's how: Making an IRA contribution will count toward your 2017 taxes and reduce your income, specifically your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI), which determines the actual premium tax credit you qualify for.

Depending on how much tax credit you received in advance, making a $1,000 contribution to a traditional IRA could result in a tax savings of several times more than that because of caps on repayment that are in place for different income thresholds.

Here's an example:
Jessica is married and bought a health insurance plan through her state Marketplace in January of 2017. She qualified for a premium tax credit when she signed up based on what she estimated her 2017 income would be. When she does her 2017 taxes with TurboTax, her income is calculated to be $64,021 for 2017. After she enters the details of her 1095-A, she finds out that her income is above the threshold to receive the premium tax credit. This means she has to pay back all of the tax credit she received in advance as a discount on her health insurance premiums during the year. She decides to contribute a $1,000 to a traditional IRA. This lowers her income to $63,021 and puts her below the threshold needed to qualify for the tax credit and within a repayment cap, which lowers the amount she has to pay back.

Here's how to check if you're eligible to fund a traditional IRA:
1. Go to Federal Taxes, then Deductions & Credits
2. Select "I'll choose what I work on"
3. Scroll down to Retirement and Investments and start Traditional and Roth IRA Contributions.
4. Check the person who wants to contribute to a traditional IRA.
5. Select Yes when asked if you contributed to a traditional IRA.
6. Answer the question about Repayment of a Retirement Distribution.
7. Enter an amount to contribute and select Continue.
8. Go back to Health Insurance and continue until you reach the screen that says "Based on your info..." and check if the IRA contribution lowered your income enough to lower the premium tax credit amount you have to pay back.

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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

How does the repayment caps apply in TurboTax? I am below 200% of PL and Turbotax is showing I should pay the full amount although according to the table in the 8962 form of the IRS website, shows that the repayment should be capped at 600. Any advice is appreciated. 

BillM223
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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

@Amhaleem

 

There are some exceptions to be able to use the limits in the table that you refer to. Please see the 8962 instructions for Line 28 starting on page 15

 

If none of those seem to apply to you, please give us the percentage shown on line 5 of form 8962 and the dollar amounts in lines 27-29. 

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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

@BillM223 

Thanks for your reply,

 

I have checked and neither of these applies to me, I am filling as married filing separately ( as my spouse is a non-resident alien with no SSN). How could I get the 8962 before I submit the 1040 form? 

BillM223
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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

@Amhaleem

 

If you are using the Online product, you cannot see any part of your return beyond the 1040 and its three schedules until you pay for the product. So in this case, the 8962 is not visible until you pay.

 

If you are using the CD/download product, you should be able to click on Forms on the upper right and then go to 8962 in the Forms list.

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I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

@BillM223 

 

Unfortunately, I am using the online version. Does Turbotax apply the repayment cap automatically? or do you think I should have 1040 than do the 8962 alone? so that I am sure everything is all right.

Thanks again for your support.

I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

@BillM223 

My FPL turned to be 209%, sounds like some numbers online are not accurate.

 

Line 5: 209%

Line 27: 1607

Line 29: 1600

 

 

I am getting hit with paying back covered ca. I was on health plan for jan-Mar. Went of Medicare. I had a jump in income in May. Turbo tax says I owe back $5K

I'm currently in a similar situation. Apparently there was a covered california insurance policy open for myself, during the same months I was getting employee-sponsored health insurance.  Now they're requiring me to pay back thousands for the "premium tax credits".  Does anyone have any advice?  I'm paniking -_-.

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