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Level 2
May 13, 2021
Question

How can $1 make this big a change?

  • May 13, 2021
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I was playing around with entering business expenses and suddenly my tax bill changed by over $2k. Before putting in business expenses, my tax bill is $5400. If I put in $8340, my tax bill is $3400, and this is what I would expect. BUT if I put in $8341 in expenses, that drops to $1000. $1 difference => $2.4k in savings?

 

The thing that I can see changing with that $1 is that the income & adjustments top-line jumps $10k. I don't know how to break that down as to why that $1 = $10k, and I can't figure out why it would do that. I can justify expenses up to that much, but it does increase audit risk.

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Alumni - Champ
May 13, 2021

First be sure you didn't mistype a comma or decimal.  Then compare the two scenarios side by side.

kayakyakrAuthor
Level 2
May 13, 2021

No typo: the change is truly just $1.

 

The only breakdown I have found is the tooltip that shows at the top. Total income changes by $10k as I add and remove the $1.

 

Is there anywhere to see how TurboTax is doing that calculation without having to drop into forms and look at each to see what is changing?

kayakyakrAuthor
Level 2
May 13, 2021

Found it. Unemployment compensation exclusion cuts in at $150k AGI and does not have a soft ramp. The $150k is apparently the same if you're married filing jointly or filing separately, which actually might make it make sense for us to file separately.

VolvoGirl
Level 15
May 13, 2021

So the $1 change put you over or under the 150,000?  

kayakyakrAuthor
Level 2
May 13, 2021

Yup, it flips the switch on 149,999 to 150,000.

 

That 150k doesn't change filing jointly or separately. US Tax Code is so dumb sometimes.