Form 14039

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September 21, 2020
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I believe I need to file Form 14039 on my own behalf. While no one filed fraudulent returns using my identity, I have been a victim of identity theft. Therefore, I plan to check off Box 2 in Section B.

Accordingly, will filing Form 14039 make it so that I would always have to snail mail paper returns in the future, or may I still e-file in the future (when I do my returns)? Thanks

Best answer by mesquitebean

So Mesquite...I can voluntarily apply for the PIN online. Assuming I successfully answer the questions, do you have any idea how long it takes for me to get the PIN?

I ask b/c I move on 10/21/2020. So, IDK if I should file form 8822 first on 10/21 and then apply for the PIN? I'd like to start using the PIN for TY 2020. Candidly, IDK why anyone who has this available to them won't get it.

So it's really a timing issue for me. Hope my timing condundrum makes sense.

I also was a victim of identity theft but am not sure yet if it will have tax consequenes. So I'm also thikning about filing 14039, but then IDK how that would throw wrenches in the filing for the voluntary PIN and/or filing 8822. My understanding is filing 14039 automatically updates your current address, but of course, it takes "up to" 6 months to process.

@Mattman wrote:
So Mesquite...I can voluntarily apply for the PIN online. Assuming I successfully answer the questions, do you have any idea how long it takes for me to get the PIN?

When you voluntarily opt-in and pass the verification for an IRS account and the IP PIN, etc., you may get it immediately at the end while you are still online. I opted-in and got mine immediately--it displayed right at the end of the IP PIN application.

You have a lot of questions, and we are all fellow users here and can't address all the nuances of the IRS. You can phone the special IRS unit that handles IP PINS, Form 14039, etc. and speak directly to an IRS agent familiar with all that. You can ask them about your address issue, too.

Here's the number of that department:

800-908-4490, Monday - Friday, 7 a.m. - 7 p.m. your local time

mesquitebean

Level 15

@Mattman wrote:
I believe I need to file Form 14039 on my own behalf. While no one filed fraudulent returns using my identity, I have been a victim of identity theft. Therefore, I plan to check off Box 2 in Section B.

Accordingly, will filing Form 14039 make it so that I would always have to snail mail paper returns in the future, or may I still e-file in the future (when I do my returns)? Thanks

You will still be able to efile, but you may have to take an extra step. Once they investigate your 14039, you'll get a letter from the IRS telling if you must use an IP PIN when efiling in the future, or they may inform that you can opt-in to the IP PIN program if you wish. If the IRS assigns you an IP PIN (a 6-digit Identity Protection PIN), you won't be able to efile without it. It's also possible to opt-in to the IP PIN program, even if the IRS doesn't mandate one. Once you start using an IP PIN, you will always have to use an IP PIN--a new one every calendar year.

MattmanAuthor

Level 4

Ok well I move in one month and will also file the form to change my address w/ the IRS too. If I send out my 14039 tomorrow or Tuesday, will that cause a problem with me then in one month filing the change of address form too with the IRS?

mesquitebean

Level 15

@Mattman wrote:
Ok well I move in one month and will also file the form to change my address w/ the IRS too. If I send out my 14039 tomorrow or Tuesday, will that cause a problem with me then in one month filing the change of address form too with the IRS?

You can try phoning the IRS special unit that handles the Form 14039, IP PINS, etc. and tell them your situation and ask them how filing both forms is going to affect things; i.e., that you'll be changing your address while your Form 14039 is being reviewed, and ask them what they suggest.

Here's the number of that department:

800-908-4490, Monday - Friday, 7 a.m. - 7 p.m. your local time