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Chappie73
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Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

I have a rental property that was rented for 7 months of 2023.  As I enter each expense (advertising, maintenance, repairs, supplies, and utilities), my tax due increases.  For science, I entered expenses into Form E manually, taking my $2,288 Income to a $7,000 loss and my tax due went up even more.  This makes no sense.

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Carl
Level 15

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

As just one example of why this happens:
A married couple filing separate returns does not qualify for the EIC regardless of income.

If your income is to low, you do not qualify.

Most likely, since you're in the rental section, you've not yet entered any other income such a W-2's. Therefore the program can only work with what it has "right now" at this specific point in time. Things will probably change as you continue to enter data into the program, once you are past the rental section and start entering personal income, along with other deductions and the such.

Basically that dollar amount you see while you are entering data means one thing, and one thing only; "The Program Did Something". That's pretty much it. That dollar amount means nothing else and don't matter until "after" you have completed your tax return in it's entirety and are ready to file.

 

 

Chappie73
New Member

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

I have already entered my W-2s.   What are other reasons this might happen?  The farther I go into the program, the more it seems I should not take these expenses.

Carl
Level 15

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

The farther I go into the program, the more it seems I should not take these expenses.

There are more potential reasons that one can possibly cover in a single post. Understand that you are "required" to take your expenses. I can't find where it states that at this time. But I've read it either in IRS Pub 427 or some other pub related to business income/expenses.

Just be aware that number means absolutely nothing until your taxes are complete. For me with rental income from 3 rentals, self-employment income, investment income and W-2 income, that number is "literally" all over the place while I'm in the process of entering data and making selections.

 

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

I am seeing the same, the higher the expenses, higher the tax due I need to pay. 

The Rental income comes after the W2s, so there is no possible explanation I can give apart from being confused why the tax due is increasing. 

I ended up taking some expenses out and that reduced my tax due. Can someone explain why this is happening please? thank you

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

By increasing your deductions and expenses it will decease your income and you may not be getting as many credits as before like the EIC credit. You can't go by the refund monitor until you have entered everything in. You would have to compare the return line by line  before adding the rental income  and after to see all what changed.  

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

Thank you for your response. Is it required to deduct the expenses such as depreciation, insurance, miles driven and minor repairs etc? I compared the final tax filing with and without real estate expenses and I have the less amount due without adding these real estate expenses. Please advise.

Tax due goes up the more expenses I enter

Sorry you can get in trouble for not reporting all your  expenses.  

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