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mring1515
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

 
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BillM223
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

It appears that TurboTax will automatically select the better of the standard deduction or the itemized deductions. The standard deduction for 2020 can be seen here. As you can see, MFJ standard deduction is $16,050.

 

I entered data into the federal return totally $20,000 in mortgage interest and property taxes. On Schedule A, TurboTax added $2,000 for NY income tax.

 

This $22,000 was carried to NY where the $2,000 was removed (NY state taxes are not deductible in NY), so I was left with $20,000. 

 

Since $20,000 is greater than $16,050, TurboTax chose the Itemized Deductions for NY in my test.

 

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mring1515
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

That's exactly what I'm looking to achieve but it's not doing that, the system picked standard for NY and I don't see how to choose otherwise. 

DaveF1006
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

Presently, Turbo Tax makes that determination for you if the standard deduction is more advantageous. There is no option in the program for you to make that choice yourself.

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mring1515
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

Sorry if I wasn't clear.  Turbo is choosing the standard for NY which is less than the itemized.  How can this be corrected?  Seems like it worked correctly in your test environment but it doesn't seem to be working in production.

BillM223
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

OK, what are the items that are itemized for NY? Remember that not all items itemized on the federal return can be itemized in New York (for example, NY income taxes). And what is your filing status in NY?

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mring1515
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

Roughly 20K for mtg interest, property tax and charitable donation. Married-jointly.

BillM223
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

I just created a test (Windows 10, Home & Business) in which I had $12,000 in mortgage interest, $7,000 in property tax, and $1,000 in charitable contributions, adding up to $20,000.

 

The federal return took the standard deduction of $24,800 and the New York return took itemized deductions of $20,000.

 

So, obviously, there is something in your return that isn't the same as in my test.

 

So, we could play ping-pong back and forth, or you could share with us a sanitized version of your return (all personal information removed) so I can see what is different.

 

So if you are willing, please read on...

 

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mring1515
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

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BillM223
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

@mring1515

 

You were caught by the Itemized Deduction Adjustment, which places a limitation on your NY itemized deductions because of your NY adjusted gross income and filing status. 

 

Your original itemized deduction was just under $20k, as you said. However, because of this adjustment due to your income, $5,168 was subtracted from this, so that your NY itemized deductions were reduced to about $14,500 - less than the standard deduction for your filing status of $16,050.

 

You can see part of the calculation in the "Form IT-196 line 46 Itemized Deduction Adjustment" (abbreviated as "ItmDedAdj (196)" in the Forms list if you have the Cd/download software).

 

There does not appear to be a clear worksheet showing the subtraction, but this clearly the cause of TurboTax not giving you Itemized Deductions on your NY return.

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mring1515
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How to select itemized deduction for NYS while keeping standard deduction for federal?

Ok thanks. My income was a lot higher than last year so that makes sense.@BILLM223

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