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You have to understand the difference between tax liability and tax owed. Your tax liability is what the IRS keeps at the end of the year, not counting penalties and self-employment tax. If you had $5000 of withholding and get a $1000 refund, your tax liability was $4000. If you have $3000 withholding and owe $1000 more when you file, your liability is still $4000.
A non-refundable credit can reduce your liability, which will either reduce the tax you owe or increase you refund. But it can't be refunded if you have no liability. In other words, if you had $5000 withholding and your liability without the credit is $4000, a credit can reduce your liability as low as zero, potentially resulting in a refund of up to the amount of your withholding. But even if you had a $10,000 credit, your liability can't go below zero. So $4000 of the credit would be applied against the $4000 liability, you would owe no tax, and get a full refund, but the other $6000 of the credit just vanishes. (Unless it is a credit that can carry over to the next year.)
You have to understand the difference between tax liability and tax owed. Your tax liability is what the IRS keeps at the end of the year, not counting penalties and self-employment tax. If you had $5000 of withholding and get a $1000 refund, your tax liability was $4000. If you have $3000 withholding and owe $1000 more when you file, your liability is still $4000.
A non-refundable credit can reduce your liability, which will either reduce the tax you owe or increase you refund. But it can't be refunded if you have no liability. In other words, if you had $5000 withholding and your liability without the credit is $4000, a credit can reduce your liability as low as zero, potentially resulting in a refund of up to the amount of your withholding. But even if you had a $10,000 credit, your liability can't go below zero. So $4000 of the credit would be applied against the $4000 liability, you would owe no tax, and get a full refund, but the other $6000 of the credit just vanishes. (Unless it is a credit that can carry over to the next year.)
<<Therefore, if you anticipate a low tax liability for the year you make the improvements, you might want to adjust your tax withholdings during the year to ensure you have enough tax liability to offset with the credit.>>
Sorry, you are confusing things.
The INCOME tax liability is the INCOME tax liability. It is line 22 of form 1040. Line 18 is the INCOME tax itself and lines 19-21 reduce the INCOME tax by any non-refundable credits.
No matter how high or how low the tax withholdings are, the tax liability is not impacted. Withholdings begin on line 25.
Now read the Help section again with that understanding. It is accurate. 😀
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf
@NCperson So, if the below formula is true.
tax liability - tax withheld = tax owed or tax overpaid
Then, do the TT "Help" and "Learn More" sections still hold true?
Help: Note: Keep in mind, these are not refundable credits, which means you can take the credit up to the tax owed. There is no refund of any credit amount left over.
Learn More: This credit is nonrefundable, which means the credit amount you receive will not exceed the amount of tax you owe. Therefore, there is no refund.
Example: If you owed $375 in taxes, but you received a nonrefundable credit of $500, the tax you owed was reduced to zero, and the remaining $125 was lost. You would not receive a refund for the remaining $125.
on your example, it is correct but I would state it a little differently so the word usage is clear:
tax liability - tax withheld = tax owed or tax overpaid
Example: If your tax liability was $375 in taxes, but you received a nonrefundable credit of $500, the tax liability was reduced to zero, and the remaining $125 was lost. You would not receive a refund for the remaining $125.
Another example. Let's say the tax liability is $375 and the withholdings were $500.
Example: If your tax liability was $375 in taxes, but you received a nonrefundable credit of $500, the tax liability was reduced to zero, and the remaining $125 was lost. You would not receive a refund for the remaining $125; however you would refund of the $500 withholdings because the tax liability is $-0- and the withholdings is $500, so based on the formula you posted, that is a $500 refund
which makes the "help section" accurate.
@gjgogol wrote:Keep in mind, these are not refundable credits, which means you can take the credit up to the tax owed.
The other answers are correct; TurboTax phrases it poorly. When it says "owed", it means the amount owed BEFORE withholding.
@AmeliesUncle, @NCperson, @Opus 17
Thank you all for your responses (and patience). Words really matter. There is a distinction between tax liability and tax owed. TT stated owed but meant liability, correct?
Based on your feedback, tax owed means that I owe the govt money because my withholding was less than what my liability was (amount you owe, line 37). In this case, if my liability was $10K and the withholding amount was $9500, I would owe $500, then I still could take advantage of the $2K tax credit and I would get a refund of $1500, correct?
Additionally, I would still receive a refund for the tax credit if my liability was $10K and the withholding amount was $10.5K, I would be due $500 refund, but I still could take advantage of the $2K tax credit and I would get a refund of $2.5K, correct?.
@gjgogol "By George, I think he's got it!"
Great job!
p.s. tax liability (line 22) and tax owed (line 37) hangs up a LOT of people! and you are right, "words matter"!
@NCperson How do we get TT to change the words they use in those HELP and LEARN MORE links?
@gjgogol wrote:How do we get TT to change the words they use in those HELP and LEARN MORE links?
A LARGE amount of the "Help" and "Learn More" information is outdated, misleading, or outright wrong. Intuit (the owners of TurboTax) doesn't really seem to care or review that material.
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