Hi,
Here is the situation: In the year 2014, we installed a solar panel system on the roof of the home we lived in for say $20k. In the year 2022, we started renting the home out.
1. Can I depreciate / deduct the solar system now that it is a part of the rental property?
2. Assuming the answer is a yes, can I do that even though I got 30% tax credit for the system in ~year 2014?
3. If I cannot depreciate / deduct, is there a way I can reduce my rental income since the system is depreciating indeed with time
4. ASIDE: For a home when it is made a rental property, is there a way to depreciate the home value?
Basically, I am looking for ways to legally minimize my taxes
Thanks!
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Yes. You can depreciate the solar system, however you must use the lesser of cost or fair market value (FMV) on the date it was converted to a rental property. Further you must reduce that figure by the credit you received in 2014.
Yes. You can depreciate the home on the date of conversion as well. The same rule applies, the cost basis for depreciation is the lesser of actual cost or FMV on the date converted to rental property. Keep in mind the land portion of the cost must be determined and is always an appreciable asset. You can make determination using the city or county tax assessments for building(s) and land. Once you find the percentage for land, you will have the cost of both the rental home and land.
Thanks. If there is a guidance document or example to estimate the home value due to solar etc; please provide. Thanks again for all the help! I actually paid a professional solar estimator to calculate the value of the home about the time we were looking into the rental etc. I assume that I can use that value to add to the home value?
Considering that the home value fluctuated the last year quite a bit (zestimate went up 10% then down 15% in my area), what is the process to calculate the estimated home value I should use to which I can add the solar value?
Here's some info on Depreciation of Solar Panels to help you estimate what they were worth when you started renting the home.
As DianeW777 stated above, don't forget to subtract the credit you received when you installed them.
Thank you! I read the link. The survey on the website however doesn't seem, relevant, right?
My understanding:
1. If I bought the system in the year 2014 for say $20k and got $5k back from the Fed and $1k from State, then I cannot initiate depreciation with $20k as starting point but I should use $14k as a starting point (20-5-1). Right?
2. If the value of the system in the year 2022 was professionally computed to be say $25k (inflation etc), still I should stick with $14k as the starting point, right?
3. Even if the system was greater than 7 years old, since it was used for residential purposes, when I turn the home into a rental business, I can initiate depreciation and depreciate for 5 years. Right?
4. The depreciation method I should use is called MACRS, right?
Please include the same numbering your response so I (and the future readers) can use the info best.
Thanks!
Yes to all of your questions.
@hameshatumkochaha
My understanding would be that you simply depreciate the house, including everything that is permanently attached as of the date it is available for rental, as a single item. You use the present fair market value or the adjusted cost basis, whichever is lower. In the case of the solar panels, your adjusted cost basis is reduced by the federal tax credit and any state tax credits.
You don't separately depreciate the house and the solar panels, any more than you would separately depreciate the house and a gas furnace you installed in 2014.
After the house is placed in service, if you make new improvements, they are depreciated separately. But the main house is deprecated as-is. Because you use the FMV or the adjusted cost basis, and your adjusted cost basis include the solar panels (plus any other improvements you have made) that's how you depreciate the solar system.
You depreciate the home and the solar panels as a single asset, all classified as residential rental real estate and depreciated over 27.5 years.
Depreciation is based on the "lesser" of what your paid for the property when originally purchased, or it's FMV at the time placed in service. I have no doubt that for a property purchased more than 10 years ago, the original purchase price is lower, and therefore the basis you will use.
To that purchase price you will add the cost of any improvements you did "before" you converted it to a rental. So to that price you will add the cost of the solar panels installed in 2014. If you took the 30% solar tax credit back in 2014, you have to reduce the cost of the solar panels by the amount of the solar tax credit.
Personally, I would enter the property and the solar panels as two separate items. Solar panels don't last forever and they will need to be replaced at some point; probably within the next 10-11 years.
I figure that within the next 3-5 years the house is going to need a new roof weather you like it or not. (Insurance company will require it.) So removing those solar panels to put on the new roof is going to drive the cost of the roof up at least four-fold, if not more. You'll probably identify "problem" panels with the solar system when doing that too.
4. ASIDE: For a home when it is made a rental property, is there a way to depreciate the home value?
I can't make sense of that question. Land is not depreciated. You can only depreciate the structure and other assets "on" the land.
Basically, I am looking for ways to legally minimize my taxes
You're thinking exactly the way the IRS want's you to think - and it's wrong. What you "really" want to minimize is the depreciation you are required to take by law.
When you add up the deductible rental expenses of mortgage interest, property insurance, property taxes and the depreciation you're required to take by law, those for items alone will usually exceed the total rental income you receive for the entire tax year. Add to that other allowed rental expenses (repairs, maintenance, etc.) and you're practically guaranteed to show a loss on the rental property on SCH E every single year. Those losses will just "carry over" to the next year, meaning that your carry over losses will grow each year. You can't "realize" those losses until the tax year you sell the property.
When you sell the property, you are required to recapture all depreciation taken in the year of sale and pay taxes on it. Recaptured depreciation is taxed at capital gain tax rates, anywhere from 0% up to a maximum of 25%. It's perfectly possible that depreciation recapture can increase your taxable income on the sale (income being the gain on the sale, as well as recaptured depreciation) bumping you into the next higher tax bracket. Weather that happens or not, depends on the numbers. Therefore, that's why I try to keep my depreciation deduction as low as I legally can.
One thing that helps in the short term and bites in the long term, is that there is now a change in the law (in 2018 I think, but not sure) that allows you to deduct up to $25K of rental losses against "other ordinary income" if you qualify. While that may help you now, when you sell and have to recapture all that depreciation and don't have those carry over losses to help offset the gain on the sale, that higher tax bracket is really going to eat into the sale profit. But like I said, how much it "eats" just depends on the numbers.
Just remember, it is not common at all for long term residential rental real estate to actually show a taxable profit on the SCH E each year. So you may find it best to keep your depreciation as low as you legally can. Just my two cents on that point.
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