I have an investment property (rental) for which I have a mortgage. I can get a better rate and avoid closing costs if I take out a home equity loan or HELOC against the investment property and use it to pay off the mortgage rather than refinance. In this case, is the interest on the home equity loan or HELOC deductible? Also, can anyone point me to the pertinent IRS documents? A related question is in the eyes of the IRS is a home equity loan or HELOC any different than a mortgage for this specific case, i.e., could the laws change to prevent the deduction of interest from a home equity loan or HELOC while maintaining the deduction for a mortgage for this specific case?
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Mortgage interest of any kind on a rental is still deductible on the sch E...those rules didn't change....only the personal residence interest on the Sch A is limited.
No, you can not deduct the interest on a HELOC if the proceeds were used to payoff the mortgage on an investment property. Starting in 2019 you can only deduct the interest paid on home equity proceeds to “buy, build or substantially improve a taxpayer’s home that secures the loan,” Ref: IRS
This rule went into effect for the 2018 tax year and was a big change from prior years, when you could deduct the interest regardless of what you used the money for.
Thank you for your response but I'm not convinced. 2019 version of Pub 936 says the following about home equity loans:
"Interest on home equity loans and lines of credit are deductible only if the borrowed funds are used to buy, build, or substantially improve the taxpayer’s home that secures the loan. As under prior law, the loan must be secured by the taxpayer’s main home or second home (qualified residence)..."
In part II of Pub 936 home acquisition debt is defined as "a mortgage you took out after October 13, 1987, to buy, build, or substantially improve a qualified home (your main or second home). "
If I read in between the lines, I'd say Pub 936 has a very broad definition of mortgage, i.e., it includes other forms of debt such as home equity loans or HELOCs. I'd also argue that the home equity loan would replace my traditional mortgage so they are serving the exact same purpose, i.e., purchasing my home. That being said, it seems like that's all moot because my rental is not a "qualified home", i.e., it's not my main or second home.
I fill out Schedule E for my rental income/loss. Lines 12 and 13 on Schedule E are:
12. Mortgage interest paid to banks, etc. (see instructions)
13. Other interest
The schedule E instructions says among other things:
"In most cases, to determine the interest expense allocable to your rental activities, you must have records to show how the proceeds of each debt were used."
"Interest you paid as part of your rental real estate activity is not subject to the limitation on business interest unless your rental real estate activity is a trade or business."
"If you have a mortgage on your rental property, enter on line 12 the amount of interest you paid for 2019 to banks or other financial institutions."
The instructions don't rule out any specific form of debt allocable to your rental activities. It does specifically say mortgage interest is deductible, but as I argued above regarding Pub 936, I think the IRS' use of the term "mortgage" includes all forms of home acquisition debt including home equity loans. Moreover, I'd argue the use of the home equity loan is equivalent to the debt I'd incur if I refinanced my traditional mortgage. I'll also note that I don't consider my managing activity to be high enough to be considered a business activity so for tax purposes it is an investment.
I haven't convinced myself that the home equity loan interest is deductible for my specific case, but based on the IRS pubs I'd say it weighs in favor of it being deductible. I'd appreciate if someone could provide a convincing argument and/or proof one way or the other.
@LeonardS -can you document your response for @CPMINT ? Why do you believe that?
The IRS doesn't care what it is called - HELOC, 2nd mortgage, etc. if you have debt used to purchase the property and you are simply replacing (and not adding to) that debt then the interest remains tax deductible
See @CPMINT 's post and the references to Publication 936.
In the financial crisis, a lot of people cashed out equity to protect their businesses only to lose both their business and their home. I suspect the 2018 law was to prevent that going forward: the government is olay if you make a personal decision to cash out the equity in your home, but not at taxpayer expense (meaning the interest related to the cash out being tax deductible).
@CPMINT - so if you replace one debt for another, it remains tax deductible.... you get into trouble if you cashout the equity (borrower more than you are paying off).
Mortgage interest of any kind on a rental is still deductible on the sch E...those rules didn't change....only the personal residence interest on the Sch A is limited.
Thank you for your reply @NCperson. I appreciate the explanation of what may be the reason for the 2018 law.
Thank you for your reply @Critter. I agree, it doesn't appear the 2018 law applies to my situation since it is a rental, i.e., not main home or second home (aka qualified residence).
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