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April 14, 2023
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underpayment penalty

  • April 14, 2023
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Turbo Tax is saying I have a $50 penalty for underpayment.  I only owe $500...I thought the underpayment only applied if you owe more than $1,000? I converted an account to a Roth in the 4th quarter and paid a timely estimated tax that quarter...do I need to annualize or something?

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    DawnC
    Level 15
    April 14, 2023

    No, you are talking about the need to pay estimated taxes.   Underpayment penalties are incurred if you don't withhold or pay enough tax on income received during each quarter.   Even if you paid your tax bill in full by the April deadline or are getting a refund, you may still get an underpayment penalty.   See Why do I have a penalty?   for a way to reduce or eliminate the penalty.  

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    Level 2
    April 14, 2023

    If I didn't convert it until the 4th quarter, how could I have paid the taxes in the other 3 (I paid an estimated tax for it as soon as I converted it)? Where is Turbo Tax getting $50 from (I think I saw somewhere it's 3% which would only be $15 for $500 due)?

    Level 15
    April 14, 2023

    "do I need to annualize or something?" Yes, annualization on the 2210 was made for your situation. Go back to your federal return, then go to Other Tax Situations, then Additional Tax Payments, then Underpayment penalties. I believe that you can access the annualization interview here.

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    fanfare
    Level 15
    April 14, 2023

    Form 2210 (default) requires equal estimated tax installments of 25%.

     

     

    @tiggerpounce 

    Level 2
    April 14, 2023

    Even if my total taxes paid for 2022 is more than 110% of my 2021 paid? I paid like 40K in 2021 and more than 60k in 2022.