I have a situation that I found many people to have an issue with. Last year I had the full $6000 contribution to Traditional IRA but I didn't deduct it from tax because my AGI exceeds the amount that I needed to make this deductible. So I should have filed 8606 but my CPA didn't.
Cue this year(2021), I made another $6000 contribution and then rolled it over to a roth IRA (backdoor roth). Now I am being charged tax for the past years amount since I didn't file the 8606 that I could have used to show the basis for tracked non-deductible Trad IRA contribution.
(I am using turbotax premier this year, last year I used a CPA).
My question is the following :
- I know we can file the 8606 form late and there may be a small penalty($50) that I am ok with. Can I do that right now and then do my taxes sometime at the end of this month ? Or should I wait a bit for that form to be processed but then I heard this form takes 4-8 months to be processed. So I definitely cannot wait that long.
Any suggestions ?
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You did not take the deduction, so your basis is $6,000, not $0. You did not file Form 8606, you can file it by itself without amending your return. It won't change the fact that you did not deduct $6,000 from your gross income.
Follow the two-step process to properly enter your backdoor Roth conversion:
Step 1: Enter the Non-deductible contribution to a Traditional IRA:
Step 2: Enter the Conversion from a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA
Inside TurboTax, search for 1099-r and select the Jump to link in the search results
To check the results of your backdoor Roth IRA conversion, see your Form 1040:
The fact that the 8606 form was not filed does not mean that your basis in your Tradtional IRA is zero. If you entered your Backdoor Roth conversion properly, you should not pay any taxes on the first $6,000 or the 2nd $6,000.
Please clarify: Did you convert $12,000 to Roth IRA?
Thanks for the reply. I converted the entire $12000 + gains to Roth IRA. As I understand I will only need to pay tax on the gains.
My previous years basis as per the form 8606 should be $6000. But I didn't file it so I put the basis as $0.
You did not take the deduction, so your basis is $6,000, not $0. You did not file Form 8606, you can file it by itself without amending your return. It won't change the fact that you did not deduct $6,000 from your gross income.
Follow the two-step process to properly enter your backdoor Roth conversion:
Step 1: Enter the Non-deductible contribution to a Traditional IRA:
Step 2: Enter the Conversion from a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA
Inside TurboTax, search for 1099-r and select the Jump to link in the search results
To check the results of your backdoor Roth IRA conversion, see your Form 1040:
Yes, you'll need to file a 2020 Form 8606 if the traditional IRA contribution for 2020 was not deducted on Schedule 1 of your 2020 tax return. This needs to be done separately from filing your 2021 tax return, so you should do it now. Although Form 8606 can be filed stand-alone, I would file it along with Form 1040-X to show that it has no effect on the rest of your 2020 tax return.
In 2021 TurboTax, indicate that you made nondeductible contributions enter $6,000 as the amount of your nondeductible traditional IRA contributions made for prior years, shown on your newly filed 2020 Form 8606 line 14. The result on the 2021 Form 8606 will be that your basis from 2020 will reduce the taxable amount of your Roth conversion.
Without the 2020 Form 8606 being filed, the IRS will not recognize the basis from your contribution for 2020.
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