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jille426
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Rollover is bumping income so I can not qualify for American Opportunity Credit. What to do?

We had to rollover a 401K to a different 401K as my husband switched jobs. Turbo Tax is showing before tax income at $203,000, but the W2 shows gross income as $149,000. Taxable income is $122,000. Turbo Tax is not allowing me to qualify for the American Opportunity education credit for $2500, which I received last year and the year before. What should I do to correct the error? The rollover should not count as income to deny the educational credit, as it is NOT income. 

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Rollover is bumping income so I can not qualify for American Opportunity Credit. What to do?

What was the code in box 7 of the Form 1099-R?  Was it a G which indicates a Rollover?

 

 

 

jille426
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Rollover is bumping income so I can not qualify for American Opportunity Credit. What to do?

Yes it says G in box 7. It is not adding to the taxable income, but it is messing with the Gross income so that the Educational credit, which is income based, is not applying.

jille426
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Rollover is bumping income so I can not qualify for American Opportunity Credit. What to do?

It is possible that I do not qualify for the educational credit because my scholarships exceeded the amount owed, and it is not related to the rollover at all. I believe the American Opportunity credit refunds up to $2500 spent. My tuition was fully covered by a scholarship this year according to the 1098-T so maybe that is why. 

Rollover is bumping income so I can not qualify for American Opportunity Credit. What to do?

Will page one of our education experts concerning your situation.  @Hal_Al can you take a look at this issue?

Hal_Al
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Rollover is bumping income so I can not qualify for American Opportunity Credit. What to do?

Q. It is possible that I do not qualify for the educational credit because my scholarships exceeded the amount tuition, and it is not related to the rollover at all?

A. Yes, that is the more likely reason.  But there is a way around that. See "loop hole" below*. 

 

The 401k amount should show on line 5a of form 1040.  The taxable amount ($0, if you rolled the whole thing over) on line 5b. The amount on line 5a is NOT added to your "total" (gross) income.

 

*There is a tax “loop hole” available to claim an education credit, for the parents of students on scholarship. The student reports all his scholarship, up to the amount needed to claim the American Opportunity Credit (AOC), as income on his return. That way, the parents  (or himself, if he is not a dependent) can claim the tuition credit on their return. They can do this because that much tuition was no longer paid by "tax free" scholarship.  You cannot do this if the school’s billing statement specifically shows the scholarships being applied to tuition or if the conditions of the grant are that it be used to pay for qualified expenses.

Using an example: Student has $10,000 in box 5 of the 1098-T and $8000 in box 1. At first glance he/she has $2000 of taxable income and nobody can claim the American opportunity credit. But if she reports $6000 as income on her return, the parents can claim $4000 of qualified expenses on their return.

Books and computers are also qualifying expenses for the AOC. So, extending the example, the student had another $1000 in expenses for those course materials, paid out of pocket, she would only need to report $5000 of taxable scholarship income, instead of $6000.

 

The IRS actually encourages use of this technique. From the form 1040 instructions: “You may be able to increase an education credit if the student chooses to include all or part of a Pell grant or certain other scholarships or fellowships in income. For more information, see Pub. 970, the instructions for Form 1040 and IRS.gov/EdCredit".  PUB 970 even has examples of how to do the “loop hole”.

 

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