I made my RMD late for TY2023 (in March, 2024). Schwab now has on record that I have made a 2024 contribution in March, 2024. I now have to make my actual 2024 RMD. My 20241099-R will now have BOTH my current 2024 RMD and my late 2023 RMD. I have already applied and received the IRS late RMD waiver and have paid the proper 2023 taxes. Schwab will not correct the current 2024 RMD data that includes the late 2023 distribution. How do I file my 2024 taxes and account for the 2023 taxes already paid? Thank you.
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Did you report the March 2024 distribution on your 2023 tax return, even though you did not have a 1099-R for it? You weren't supposed to do that. You report an IRA distribution in the year that you actually take it, even if it's a late distribution for the prior year. Schwab is reporting it correctly. Your 1099-R for 2024 is supposed to include all distributions that you took in 2024. There is nothing for them to correct.
You will have to file an amended return for 2023 to remove the distribution that you reported in 2023 but actually took in 2024. You make the correction on your 2023 amended return, not on your 2024 tax return.
Did you report the March 2024 distribution on your 2023 tax return, even though you did not have a 1099-R for it? You weren't supposed to do that. You report an IRA distribution in the year that you actually take it, even if it's a late distribution for the prior year. Schwab is reporting it correctly. Your 1099-R for 2024 is supposed to include all distributions that you took in 2024. There is nothing for them to correct.
You will have to file an amended return for 2023 to remove the distribution that you reported in 2023 but actually took in 2024. You make the correction on your 2023 amended return, not on your 2024 tax return.
Thank you for your quick response. It certainly makes sense...however.....
I filed Form 5329 with my 2023 tax return with a request for a waiver of the penalty. The form also instructs how to add the "missed" distribution to the 2023 tax return. As I noted, I DID pay the 2023 tax due. I subsequently received a letter from the IRS approving my waiver and "accepting" the tax due.
I'm thinking now that I will simply file a form 4852 for "incorrect" 1099-R forms with my 2024 taxes. The form provides the ability to enter in the 2024 distribution (in my case, the sum of the 2023 and 2024 withdrawals from Schwab) and then identify how much should be taxable. An explanation is also required on the form.
Thoughts? Thank you.
I think you misunderstood Form 5329.
First of all, there are two different taxes involved here. When you take a distribution from an IRA you include the amount of the distribution in your income on your tax return, and you pay regular income tax on it, just like the tax on any other income. That's the first tax - regular income tax on the amount of the distribution.
What most people commonly call a "penalty" for the missed RMD is technically an "additional tax." The IRS forms and instructions consistently refer to it as "additional tax." The additional tax is calculated in Part IX of Form 5329. This is the second tax. It's in addition to the regular income tax.
I don't see any place where Form 5329 gives you instructions for adding a missed distribution to the tax return for the current year (2023). Line 55 of Form 5329 tells you to include the "additional tax," i.e. the "penalty," on Schedule 2 line 8. Is that what you're referring to? That's just the "additional tax," not the distribution amount.
If you requested a waiver of the entire penalty, line 54 of Form 5329 should have been zero and line 55 should have been blank or zero. Did your Form 5329 have a non-zero amount on line 55? Is that the tax that you are saying you paid, and that the IRS "accepted." That's not income tax on the late distribution that you took in 2024. It's the "additional tax" (penalty) for not taking the distribution in 2023.
The IRS may not know how much your RMD is, or how much you failed to take, except from what you report on Form 5329. If you filled out the form showing additional tax on line 55, they will accept that.
If you filled out Form 5329 incorrectly, you should include a corrected Form 5329 in your amended return for 2023.
I don't think Form 4852 is appropriate. The 2024 1099-R from Schwab is not incorrect. It is supposed to include all of the distributions that you took in 2024. You are supposed to include all of those distributions in the income on your 2024 tax return, and pay income tax on all of it.
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