In Dec 2020 I inherited my sons 401k. It is less than 10k. I have never had a 401k, and I am retired, so I have a couple of questions.
Since I am 72 does the tax code require me to take a distribution? (if so when/amount)
Is there a tax advantage to taking monthly distributions vs. lump sum distribution?
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You have a complex situation and new rules apply as the SECURE Act appears to apply in your situation. Be cognizant of the term "eligible" when reading this informative article. I suspect you are not "eligible" but not having the full fact pattern can not make that determination.
Inheriting an IRA? Understand Your Options (schwab.com)
The rules surrounding inherited retirement accounts have grown more complex since the SECURE Act passed in December 2019. Here’s what we understand so far about the changes:
The SECURE Act doesn’t affect existing inherited accounts if the original owner died before or during 2019. Beneficiaries who inherited a retirement account before 2020 won’t have to adjust distribution plans put in place before the new rules took effect. The options for beneficiaries going forward depend on who they are and when the original account owner dies.
Let’s look at the options available to those who inherit a retirement account in 2020 and beyond1.
Options available to everyone
First, there are a few options available to anyone who inherits a retirement account, no matter their relationship to the original account holder.
Option #1: “Disclaim” the inherited retirement account
Available to: Everyone
How it works: By disclaiming (or not accepting) the inheritance, you allow the assets to pass to an alternate beneficiary named by the original account holder. This option can be useful for those who don’t need the assets and want to avoid the tax consequences of having additional income. By disclaiming the asset, you can potentially pass these assets on to someone in a lower tax bracket. To disclaim, you need to make this choice within nine months of the original owner’s death and before taking possession of any assets.
Option #2: Take a lump sum distribution
Available to: Everyone
How it works: You may take all the assets in the account as a lump sum distribution without facing a 10% early withdrawal penalty. However, you’ll have to pay taxes on the withdrawal if the assets were in a tax-deferred account, such as a traditional IRA or 401(k). Using this option could place you in a higher tax bracket. Importantly, you’ll also lose out on the potential benefits of any additional tax-deferred appreciation.
Options available to “eligible” designated beneficiaries
Under the SECURE Act, “eligible” designated beneficiaries are largely able to use the old rules for distributions from an inherited retirement account.
Eligible designated beneficiaries include the following 5 types of people:
Option #3: Transfer the funds into your own IRA
Available to: Surviving spouses
How it works: The rules about subsequent withdrawals are the same as if the account had always belonged to you. For example, if you want to withdraw funds after the transfer but are not 59½ yet, you must pay a 10% early withdrawal penalty. And assuming the money was tax-deferred, you must also pay the taxes owed on the distribution—the same as with any traditional IRA.
Option #4: Take distributions over your life expectancy
Available to: All eligible designated beneficiaries (there is a limit to this rule for minor children)
How it works: Assuming you don’t need all the money at once, you could transfer the funds into an Inherited IRA held in your name, sometimes referred to as a “stretch” IRA. This option enables you to take required minimum distributions (RMDs) based on your life expectancy, allowing the bulk of the money more time to potentially grow tax-deferred.
Although your life expectancy may be used to calculate the amount of your RMDs, the initial timing of those RMDs is determined by the age of the deceased account holder and your relationship to them. Having professional guidance here can really pay off given that an RMD miscalculation could result in a 50% penalty for any undistributed amount.
Options available to designated beneficiaries who are not “eligible”
In general, if you’re not one of the 5 “eligible” beneficiaries listed above, you’re no longer able to stretch out the distributions from an inherited retirement account over your life expectancy. Now, you’re required to distribute all the assets from the account with 10 years of the original account holder’s death.
Option #5: Distribute the assets within 10 years
Available to: Those who are not “eligible” designated beneficiaries
How it works: While there is no annual RMD, you must distribute the assets within 10 years. For example, you can take some assets out each year or just leave all the assets in the account until the last day. However, any assets that are not distributed by the end of the 10th year, will be subject to a 50% penalty.
Whether you leave the money in the account for the 10-year period or take out a portion of the money each year depends on several factors, including the type of account. If you inherit a Roth account, it could make sense to leave those assets in the account for as long as possible. This way the funds can potentially grow tax free for the entire period– then before the end of the 10th year those assets can be taken out tax free.
If you inherited a relatively large tax-deferred account (like a traditional IRA) it could make more sense to take distributions from the account each year. This way you avoid taking a single large distribution in the last year, which could push you into a much higher tax bracket.
What about those who are not listed as a designated beneficiary?
Some people end up inheriting a retirement account through an estate. In these situations, the distribution method used will generally follow the old rules from before the SECURE Act. In general one of the following methods must be used to distribute the assets…
Role of an estate or financial planner
Given the complexity of the new rules, it’s a good idea to meet with an estate or financial planning professional to make sure your accounts are set up to carry out your wishes. Similarly, if you inherit a retirement account consider meeting with a professional to ensure that you understand the rules and can implement a tax-efficient withdrawal strategy.
1 The options discussed in this article are strictly for individuals. Please consult with a financial consultant for rules governing trusts accounts.
2Once the age of majority is reached, the rules change. This rule does not apply to grandchildren, only the direct descendant of the parent.
3At the date of death the individual must be disabled, as defined by IRC 72(m)(7)
4At the date of death the individual must be chronically ill, as defined by IRC 7702B(c)(2)
The bottom line is that a lump-sum distribution may be the worst way to go. You could possibly have a much larger tax burden than if you spread it out. You can plug the amount into a fake return, using the information about the rest of your income, to see what it could cost you. Just open a new return with a different user name and then abandon it.
Thank you very much for your reply. Of course once I pushed post, I thought of one more piece of info that may have bearing. My son used only after tax dollars to fund this account. It was a personal account not associated with any employer. Is that relevant?
Thank you very much for your reply, I will follow your suggestion. What If's are a valuable tool.
jimshepherd was correct in assuming I was not an "eligible" person. Then as ColeenD3 suggested I did some WFI's with the TT program using hypothetical numbers. this is what I found:
2020 refunds | |||||||||
Distribution type | Amount | Fed $861 | ST $338 | return / yr | Total Loss/yr | TOTAL LOSS | Gain/yr $1,199 | Total Gain | |
Full | $7,751 | ($861) | ($195) | ($1,056) | ($2,255) | ($2,255) | $5,496 | $5,496 | |
Half | $3,876 | ($3) | $76 | $73 | ($1,126) | $3,949 | |||
Half | $3,876 | ($3) | $76 | $73 | ($1,126) | ($2,252) | $3,949 | $7,898 | |
Third | $2,584 | $285 | $163 | $448 | ($751) | $3,032 | |||
Third | $2,584 | $285 | $163 | $448 | ($751) | $3,032 | |||
Third | $2,584 | $285 | $163 | $448 | ($751) | ($2,253) | $3,032 | $9,096 |
IF my total refunds this year were $1,199, this and all things other items stayed the same over multiple years for comparison . In considering distributions I was somewhat surprised that my total loss would stay relatively the same, but there was a rather large difference in the amount of return. I always figured "They" would take about 1/3 and the consideration had to be how to minimize the yearly loss.
Thank you, I hope you find this info interesting also.
Thank you so much for sharing - I don't have the spreadsheet so forgive me if I may be misinterpreting - would not the total loss which already includes the forgone tax refund be subtracted from the distribution amount. It appears you did so with the full distribution in column 1 but not the other columns. That would make the difference in gain less significant.
You are correct, ($1199 if I recall correctly is figured as the basis) but because there is a return amount in all but the full distribution, the yearly loss is reduced. With the full amount you loose almost twice what you would have received if you took nothing. Please notice the total loss in each of the cases is about the same. One could say it is almost a constant in each complete cycle of total distribution. I had to look at the results very close. The real gain comes when spreading over 2 or 3 yrs the lower tax rate and lessened impact to overall income joined together to improve the realized gain at the end of complete distribution. One WILL loose a bit under 1/3 of the IRA value but you can manage the impact of the gain. At least that is how it appears to me.
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