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We demolished a rental house due to extensive termite damage. Now we rent it out as a parking lot. How, or can the remaining depreciation on the structure get deducted?

 
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Carl
Level 15

We demolished a rental house due to extensive termite damage. Now we rent it out as a parking lot. How, or can the remaining depreciation on the structure get deducted?

I can help with this. But first I need you to understand some things, and I need you to clarify some other things for me so I don't waste  your time with information that doesn't apply to your situation.
 For starter's, understand that depreciation is not a permanent deduction, and you don't "deduct" the rest of it. Your depreciation on the property just "stops" as of the date of the fire. At some point in time all the depreciation you've already taken on the property will have to be recaptured by you and you will pay taxes on that recaptured depreciation. This "usually" occurs in the year you sell or otherwise dispose of the property. But your situation is not what I would call "usual". We'll get into that later. Now the additional clarifications that are necessary.
 - First, was there an insurance payout involved in this? (I expect not. But there could be.)
 - YOu say, " Now we rent it out as a parking lot"  I need clarification on this. Do you rent the lot on contract to say for example, the business next door that uses it as parking space for their customers? Or do you rent parking spaces on a "per car" basis daily, where you are controlling who enters/leaves the lot?
 - Did you pay for demolition, paving, painting parking spaces, etc.?

We demolished a rental house due to extensive termite damage. Now we rent it out as a parking lot. How, or can the remaining depreciation on the structure get deducted?

No insurance payout. The business next to the property rents it on a monthly basis. We did pay for demo and to gravel the lot for parking purposes. We had rented the house out for over 20 years. We knew the business next to it wanted it for parking and the repairs from the termites were to extensive to be worth fixing it.
Carl
Level 15

We demolished a rental house due to extensive termite damage. Now we rent it out as a parking lot. How, or can the remaining depreciation on the structure get deducted?

Gotcha. Gimme a few while I review this thread again and type up a response. I assume you are "in fact" using the desktop version of Home & Business, as indicated on my screen. Same as I use, so this shouldn't take to long. (THough there is a bit of educational information I need to include, so you'll understand why you're doing some of the things I'm advising you to do.)
Carl
Level 15

We demolished a rental house due to extensive termite damage. Now we rent it out as a parking lot. How, or can the remaining depreciation on the structure get deducted?

Here we go.

Understand that depreciation is not something you “deduct and forget”. With rental property, you are required by law to take depreciation on it, during the time that property is “in service” as a rental. Then in the future when you sell or otherwise dispose of the property, all prior depreciation taken on the property is recaptured and taxed. Generally, this is accomplished by subtracting the depreciation taken, from your cost-basis (what you paid) for the property.

So if you pay $100,000 for the rental property in 2010 and rented it every year up until the year you sold it, lets say you have $$20,000 of depreciation. You sold the property for $150,000. Your taxable gain is figured by first subtracting all that depreciation from what you paid for the property. So $100K minus $20K gives you an adjusted cost basis of $80K. You sold the property for $150K, and that gives you a $70K taxable gain.

But your case is different. As I’m sure you’re aware, you’ve only be depreciating the value of the structure that was on that property. Land is not depreciable. Now that structure has been demolished and is no longer there. Yet you’re still renting the property. So what happens to all that depreciation taken on a structure that no longer exists? It does have to be accounted for, one way or another, sooner or later.

Basically what we’re going to do is take the current asset, which includes the land and the structure, out of service so as to stop depreciation on it. Then we’re going to enter a “new” asset which will be the land only, and on that asset we are going to show the prior depreciation already taken. That way, it’s accounted for. We also have to account for your cost of demolition, because what you paid for that will be added to your cost basis for the property. So lets start by taking the old asset out of service. During this process you will also need to write down some figures, as you will need them when you enter the “new” asset of land only.

The first thing you need to do is back a backup of your existing tax file, in case you mess up, get confused, or just need to start over for any reason. By default, your tax file ends with a filename extension of .tax2017 and is located in the Documents/TurboTax directory. So make a backup of this file right now, before you do anything else. Otherwise, if you mess up without a backup to fall back on, you will find yourself in a never-ending nightmare from which you will never awaken.

Start working through the rental property “as if” nothing happened. DO NOT select the option for “I sold or otherwise disposed of this property in 2017”. I reiterate, *DO* *NOT* select that option. (You didn’t sell or dispose of anything really. You’ll understand as we go.)

When you get to the rental summary screen you’ll enter all rental income received for *the* *entire* *year*. That’s all rental income from tenants prior to demolition, and all income from the business renting it as a parking lot after demolition.

In the rental expenses section you will enter all rental expenses incurred prior to the demolition. You will NOT include the cost of demolition in this section. You “will” include the cost of the gravel and other things you paid for, in the process of meeting the needs of your parking lot renter.

Now after rental expenses, elect to start/update the assets/depreciation section. At this point, I am going to assume the only thing listed there is the rental property itself. Being that you rented it out for 20 years, my bet is you have other assets/property improvements listed there. If so, then the same rules apply to each listed asset, and you must do this for each and every asset listed, one at a time.

Start working through the first asset (I assume that will be the property itself) On that first “review information” screen, write down all you see there. You will need all of that information later. Make sure you label the figures so you know what each is for. Otherwise if you get confused later, you’ll risk doing the math wrong. Once you’ve got that information click Continue.

- Did you stop using this asset in 2017?  You will select YES.
- Leave the “date acquired” alone. Don’t touch it. But do write it down. You’ll need it later. The date of disposition will be the date demolition started. Then click Continue.
- Special Handling Required? You will click YES.
- Depreciation Deduction amount. Write this figure down and make sure you label it as depreciation for the 2017 tax year, and what specific asset this amount is for. Click Continue.

You’re now back on the ‘Your property assets” summary screen. If you have more assets listed, work them through just as you did the first asset. Once all assets are worked through and you’re back on that “Your property assets” summary screen, click the DONE button. (this action confirms the program saves all your actions up to this point.)

Now elect to edit/update the Assets/Depreciation again, and elect to go straight to the asset summary screen.

 - Now click “Add an asset” select “Rental Real Estate Property” and then Continue.
- Select “Land Improvements” and Continue.
- For “Describe the Asset” enter something akin to “Raw Land/Parking Lot” or something of that nature.
- For cost, enter what you paid for the property when you originally purchased it, plus the cost of any property improvements done to the property during the time you’ve owned it. This figure will include what you paid for demolition of the old structure also.
- For the “date purchased or acquired” you will enter the date you originally purchased the property 20 years ago. Then click Continue.
- Select that you purchased the asset new, and you’ve always used it 100% of the time for business since you acquired it. Then continue.
- Select the MACRS convention used in the first year you owned it, then continue.
- Now, all those depreciation amounts you wrote down earlier. Add them all up for all assets, and enter that amount on this screen, which is titled “Confirm your prior depreciation”. This accounts for all prior depreciation taken on the property. Then click Continue.
- You’re now on the asset summary screen. It should show zero depreciation for 2017. If you click the more details box, it shows it’s being depreciated over 15 years. But who cares? The depreciation amount will be zero every year, just as it should be since land is not a depreciable asset. After reviewing this screen, click the continue button. This returns you to the “Your Asset Summary” screen.

Now at this point,  you’re done. But next year when you start your 2018 tax return, you will delete all assets except for the “land” asset you just finished entering.


We demolished a rental house due to extensive termite damage. Now we rent it out as a parking lot. How, or can the remaining depreciation on the structure get deducted?

Thank you very much. I know that without this info I would have really messed up.
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