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Rental Property profile and days rented

Hi -

In Turbo Tax, I am working through the Rental property profile and am asked if the property was rented for all of 2021.

 

I purchased a short-term rental property on 6/28/2021 and it was available to rent starting that date. The property was rented or available to be rented through the end of 2021, except when I spent 2 weeks at the property performing maintenance and repair work.

 

So, would these 2 weeks stop me from considering the property being rented for all year even though I only owned the property for part of the year?

 

Also, is this question asking if the property was made able to rent or asking if the property was actually being rented by someone?

 

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DianeW777
Expert Alumni

Rental Property profile and days rented

No, the days of work on the rental would not be considered as personal use.  You should indicate the property was available on a certain date and then, 'Yes' it was available all year.  TurboTax knows the date placed in service and will calculate the depreciation appropriately.

 

Available and actually renting are not the same thing, however the date it was available for rent is the key date for placed in service.  As long as it was available and marketed as such that is the date you should are allowed to deduct expenses regardless of whether it was actually rented that day or not.

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Rental Property profile and days rented

Thanks for the clarification.

 

It's my first year using Turbo Tax to handle Rental property income and the word "rented" in the snippet below caused my uncertainty . What constitutes "rented" here is that the property was "available to be rented" as you responded.

 

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Carl
Level 15

Rental Property profile and days rented

It appears you may be a first time landlord. There are some things that the program doesn't really clarify very well. So the below is offered in case you find it helpful.

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence or 2nd home before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out, or the date you decided to lease the property – whichever is later.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter was contracted to move in, and/or "could" have moved in. That would be your "in service" date or after if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters do not count for actual days rented. Please see IRS Publication927 page 17 at https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p527.pdf#en_US_2020_publink1000219175 Read the “Example” in the third column.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence, 2nd home, or any other personal use reasons after you converted it to a rental. Living in the property for the purpose of doing work on it to get it ready for the next renter, is NOT personal use.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that Improve, restore, or otherwise “better” the property. Basically, they retain or add value to the property.

Betterments:
Expenses that may result in a betterment to your property include expenses for fixing a pre-existing defect or condition, enlarging or expanding your property, or increasing the capacity, strength, or quality of your property. An example of a pre-existing condition or defect in this context would be something such as foundation repair (slab jacking) or some other, hidden and costly, anomaly.
Restoration:
Expenses that may be for restoration include expenses for replacing a substantial structural part of your property, repairing damage to your property after you properly adjusted the basis of your property as a result of a casualty loss, or rebuilding your property to a like-new condition.
Adaptation:
Expenses that may be for adaptation include expenses for altering your property to a use that isn’t consistent with the intended ordinary use of your property when you began renting the property. Adding a wheelchair ramp would be an example.

 

Expenses for these types of costs are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria need to be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must retain or add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

There are rules that allow you to just flat-out expense and deduct some property improvements instead of capitalizing and depreciating them, if the total cost of the improvement was less than $2,500. It’s referred to as “safe harbor di-minimis” But depending on the specific situation, this may or may not be beneficial. Just be aware that not every property improvement that cost less than $2,500 qualifies for this. If this interest you, the rules can get complex. So a good place to start reading is on the IRS website at https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations. The stuff on di-minimis starts about one page down.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and its assets in the usable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent for the very first time are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or its assets to the same usable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent for the very first time are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a 2-bedroom house into a 3-bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

Rental Property profile and days rented

So on the following screen, I selected the option indicating that the property was rented all year per Diane's and Carl's explanation.

 

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Afterward, I reviewed the completed Schedule E worksheet and noticed that Turbo Tax had entered 365 for "Fair Rental Days" on line 2 even though I only owned the property for 186 days in 2021.

 

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Should this number be 186 days versus 365 days since I only purchased/owned the property on June 28, 2021 which is also when it was placed in service?

MarilynG
Expert Alumni

Rental Property profile and days rented

No, this is correct as long as you entered the correct 'date first started using for business' in the Assets/Depreciation section (screenshot).

 

You can review the Asset Entry Worksheet to verify the info on your rental is correct. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Carl
Level 15

Rental Property profile and days rented

What you need to check, is the amount of depreciation taken. If the depreciation amount is right, that's what matters. It's easy to check, and I can probably do it quicker if you just provide me the numbers.

I see you have an in service date of 6/28/2021.  So for the property asset what numbers do you have entered for COST and COST OF LAND?

I'll be using the worksheet on page 37 of IRS Pub 946 at https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p946.pdf along with table A-6 on page 72.

Let's see if we come up with the same numbers.

 

Rental Property profile and days rented

Hi Carl,

 

Turbo Tax has a listed a depreciation amount of $2719.

 

The property's cost and cost of land are:

Cost - $683312.55
Cost of Land - $545286.41

 

Thanks!

Carl
Level 15

Rental Property profile and days rented

Using your numbers and an in service date of 6/28/2021, I show the cost basis of the structure (cost minus cost of land) to be $138,026.14 .

I get a first year depreciation amount of $2,719.11  by using the worksheet and table A-6 in IRS Pub 946.

The TTX program may or may not have that "exact" figure, because of IRS rounding requirements to the nearest dollar amount. So if the program shows your first year depreciation within $5 either side of $2,719, then you're spot on.

 

Rental Property profile and days rented

Turbo Tax calculated a $2719 deprecation amount exactly.

So, it is using the correct in service date as expected.

Thanks for double-checking the numbers!

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