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2019 Rental QBI Operating Loss

I have a rental property that was acquired in 2012. I use Turbo tax Premier every year to file tax.

 

This year I entered the Profit/Loss for the property as usual. However, when I do federal review, all the sudden I have to enter  2019 Rental Operating Loss (QBI column) in the Schedule E Wks for the property manually as the field is not filled out and causing error. Why Turbo tax couldn't calculate this for me? My 2019 tax file was imported to start the 2020 tax return. Turbo tax should have the information?

 

In the same Schedule E Wks, I can see the 2018 Operating Loss (QBI column) amount. Turbo tax must calculated it, as I have no idea how to calculate that.

 

So why Turbo tax need me for the 2019 number? And how can I figure it out?

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DianeW777
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2019 Rental QBI Operating Loss

Here is the answer.  First, rental properties are unique and must specifically indicate if they believe they fit the criteria for using the qualified business income deduction (QBID) for their specific rental activity.  More information is provided below.

 

In your 2019 TurboTax file look for any worksheets labeled Carryover (8995 worksheets specifically). It be me the same figure you see listed under 2018 you indicate above.

 

The IRS finalized the safe harbor rules for rental properties. Do you meet the requirements?

 

This safe harbor is available for taxpayers who seek to claim the section 199A deduction with respect to a "rental real estate enterprise." Solely for purposes of this safe harbor, a rental real estate enterprise is defined as an interest in real property held to generate rental or lease income. It may consist of an interest in a single property or interests in multiple properties. The taxpayer or a relevant passthrough entity (RPE) relying on this revenue procedure must hold each interest directly or through an entity disregarded as an entity separate from its owner, such as a limited liability company with a single member.

 

The following requirements must be met by taxpayers or RPEs to qualify for this safe harbor:

  1. Separate books and records are maintained to reflect income and expenses for each rental real estate enterprise.
  2. For rental real estate enterprises that have been in existence less than four years, 250 or more hours of rental services are performed per year. For other rental real estate enterprises, 250 or more hours of rental services are performed in at least three of the past five years.
  3. The taxpayer maintains contemporaneous records, including time reports, logs, or similar documents, regarding the following: hours of all services performed; description of all services performed; dates on which such services were performed; and who performed the services.
  4. The taxpayer or RPE attaches a statement to the return filed for the tax year(s) the safe harbor is relied upon.

To change the answer or review your selections you can use the steps below.

  • Open your TurboTax return > Search (upper right) type rentals > Press enter > Click the Jump to ... link
  • Edit next to your rental activity > Scroll to Qualified Business Income > Edit/Update >
  • Select 'None of the above' on the Real Estate Professional page
  • Continue to the page Do you want to use a safe harbor....  make your selection > Continue
  • Select your answer again', on the page  Is this Qualified Business Income?​​​​​​​

To include your QBID carryforward loss so that it is not lost you can use the steps below.

  • TurboTax CD/Download or TurboTax Online
    • Business Income and Expenses > Less Common Business Situations > Net Operating Loss/QBI Carryforward Loss
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2019 Rental QBI Operating Loss

I checked my 2019 Turbo Tax file. Unfortunately there is no Carryover (8995 worksheets)

 

Only form or worksheets related to 8995 is one called Form 8995. Line 1 column (c) lists QBI (loss). Not sure if this was the QBID you talked about. If so, why couldn't Turbo tax copy over to my 2020 tax return and force me to figure it out? 

 

 

2019 Rental QBI Operating Loss

Further, just to understand, how do I interpret a negative QBID number?

 

Does it mean instead of a deduction, I will have to pay tax on the amount?

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