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Level 2
February 17, 2022
Question

2021 Form 2210 Calculation Error

  • February 17, 2022
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The approved Form 2210 showed up in my update today but there is an error in the form.

 

What I am experiencing while selecting Option C and option D,  in Part II of Form 2210, Part III Line 10a (required installments 1st QTR) is not pulling the value from Form 2210AI line 27a as it should.   It actually appears to be pulling the number from Form 2210AI Line 21B ( amount of tax due through 5/31) which results in a penalty being due even though the "go to supporting form" click does go to the proper form and cell.   Its just not taking that number.   

 

I have fully deleted the forms 2210, 2210AI and 2010 Penalty in an attempt to correct the problem.  Anyone have any ideas? 

    18 replies

    Level 5
    February 17, 2022

    Reported same error in another post.  I called Turbotax to report this issue this morning because there is no way to edit Form 2210 line 10 box (a) to override this data transfer error from Form 2210 AI.  I have a case number covering this issue and will call again in a few days if the next update doesn't fix the error.

    tonyteshera
    Level 3
    February 17, 2022

    I am experiencing the same exact problem. Glad to know there's a report filed.

    Level 5
    February 18, 2022

    I also noted that the step by step page in the underpayment penalty section for entering withholding information for each period is messed up for the second and third periods.  Both of these should specify 6/15/21 rather than 7/15/21 so that the withholding data matches the income periods that are use in Form 2210 series.  This would affect the penalty calculation, but in taxpayer's favor, if the data through 7/15/21 was entered.  Still no update this morning to correct the error with Form 2210 line 10 box (a) and I haven't found any workarounds that will override the incorrect number without causing other problems with the Form 2210 series calculations. 

    Level 2
    February 18, 2022

    Sorry no help here, I have the same problem.  It took a long time to try to explain it to "Customer Support".  Their resolution was to send me a link to the community form!!!

    Level 2
    February 18, 2022

    I saw that Tax4fp posted about this, and I've got the same problem, too.

    I was unable to get help from anywhere, and I don't have a case number, so I hope someone posts here if it gets fixed.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    Same problem on Form 2210 Part III Line 10a. TurboTax is not using the info from Form 2210 Schedule A1 line 27a, but is using line 27 information for Line 10b,c,d.  

     

    Also the data in Form 2210 Part III Line 11 b & c are incorrect & should be swapped.  i.e. Data in Line 11b should be in Line 11c & Data in Line 11c should be in line 11b.

    EdRaleighAuthor
    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    Tony, I wasn't able to reproduce the problem with Line 11 columns b+c being swapped.

     

    But, TT has another error related to this form that may be your issue.  In the step by step interview they are giving the wrong dates for tax withheld.   TT has the dates for tax withheld incorrect for the 2nd and 3rd payments.  They have the withheld dates as 4/16 - 7/15 (3 months) and then 7/16-9/15 (2 months) in the Step by Step interview process but the dates on the actual form are 4/16 - 6/15 (2 months) and then 6/16 - 9/15 (3 months).  I think this could give the appearance of being swapped.  The dates on the actual form are correct and should be used for the tax withheld calculation.    Hope this helps.

    Level 5
    February 19, 2022

    Ed, I agree. My earlier post below is in line with your observations.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    I have the same problem. In my case, Form 2210AI Line 27, column A is DOUBLED when it's sent to form 2210 line 10 column A. As a result it calculates a penalty, which shouldn't exist for me. 

     

    I called TurboTax support and the first person said I could over-ride the number on Form 2210. That's true, but then you get a form error and can't e-file. So after about 90 minutes they had me send a "diagnostic file" to them and created a case number for this problem for me.

     

    Hopefully they can fix this soon.  If we get close to April 15, I know I can just print it out with the over-ride and submit via paper. But that's a crappy solution.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    Submitting via paper is an undesireable solution especially if you have a refund coming.  A recent Kiplinger Tax Letter reported that the IRS has a backlog of some 6 million 2010 paper returns yet to be processed.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    Exact same problem.  thank you for submitting the issue so clearly.  Turbo Tax please fix!

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    I have the same problem, it is picking up Qtr 1 & 2 for Qtr 1, the other numbers are OK.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    I am having the same problem.  In 2020, the first payment was due in July and it was for the total amount from the first and second periods.  In 2021, the first payment was due in April so it  should only be for the first period, but it appears the program is still pulling the amount due through the first and second periods.

     

    Frustrating, after waiting weeks for the update.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    Same problem.  Mine appears to be pulling from line 22c.

    Level 2
    February 19, 2022

    Was responding to the original poster.  My problem is that line 10, column A is not pulling from Schedule AI, Line 27, Column A, but appears to be pulling from Schedule AI, line 22, Column B.