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I am getting married next week, i am 66.2 years old and still working 

 

Last year i filed single with a gross income of 110K

 

My question is i am considering taking my Social security next year which will add another 40K to my inclome, and my wife will only make less then 10K 

 

So  with SS estimating 160K

 

If i file married will i have a large tax burden because of the Social security 

 

Thanks 

Perry 

 

 

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social security

When you file a joint tax return, all of your combined income must be entered on that tax return, including both of your SSA1099's.   If you file separate returns, MORE of the SS is taxable.

 

 

If you were legally married at the end of 2024 your filing choices are married filing jointly or married filing separately.

 

Married Filing Jointly is usually better, even if one spouse had little or no income. When you file a joint return, you and your spouse will get the married filing jointly standard deduction of $29,200 (+$1500 for each spouse 65 or older)  for 2024. You are eligible for more credits including education credits, earned income credit, child and dependent care credit, and a larger income limit to receive the child tax credit. 

 

If you choose to file married filing separately, both spouses have to file the same way—either you both itemize or you both use standard deduction. Your tax rate will be higher than on a joint return.

 

 Some of the special rules for filing separately include: you cannot get earned income credit, education credits, adoption credits, or deductions for student loan interest. A higher percent of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Your limit for SALT (state and local taxes and sales tax) will be only $5000 per spouse. In many cases you will not be able to take the child and dependent care credit. The amount you can contribute to a retirement account will be affected. If you live in a community property state, you will be required to provide additional information regarding your spouse’s income. ( Community property states:  AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI)

 

 If  you are using online TurboTax to prepare your returns, you will need to prepare two separate returns and pay twice since with online, you get one return per fee.

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-married-filing-jointly-vs-married-filing-separately

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901162-married-filing-separately-in-community-property-states

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-is-it-better-for-a-married-couple-to-file-jointly-or-separ...

 

 

 

 

 

TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY

 

Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits can be taxable on your federal tax return.  There is no age limit for having to pay taxes on Social Security benefits if you have other sources of income along with the SS benefits.  When you have other income such as earnings from continuing to work, investment income, pensions, etc. up to 85% of your SS can be taxable. 

 

 What confuses people about this is that before you reach full retirement age, if you continue working while drawing SS, your benefits can be reduced if you earn over a certain limit. (For 2019 it was $17,640— for 2020 it was $18,240; for 2021 it was  $18,960.  For 2022 it was  $19,560    for 2023 $21,240)  For 2024, $22,320.

 

After full retirement age, no matter how much you continue to earn, your benefits are not reduced by your earnings; your employer will still have to withhold for Social Security and Medicare.  If you work as an independent contractor then you will pay self-employment tax for Social Security and Medicare.

 

To see how much of your Social Security was taxable, look at lines 6a and 6b of your 2023 Form 1040

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899144-is-my-social-security-income-taxable

 

https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/are-my-social-security-or-railroad-retirement-tier-i-benefits-taxable

 

You need to file a federal return if half your Social Security plus your other income is $25,000 when filing single or head of household, or $32,000 when filing married filing jointly, $0 if you are filing married filing separately.

 

 

 

Some additional information:  There are 11 states that tax Social Security—Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Utah, and Vermont  These states offer varying degrees of income exemptions, but two mirror the federal tax schedule: MN and VT.

 

The tax laws for 2024 will change——for  tax year 2024 Missouri and Nebraska will no longer tax SS

 

 

 

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**
AR_CPA2
Employee Tax & Finance Expert

social security

Hello perryc1958,

 

Congratulations!!

Up to 85% of your social security benefits can be taxable.

https://www-origin.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/taxes.html

Since your spouse has considerably less income, you would be better off filing Married Filing Joint.

 

Thanks for participating in TurboTax's Ask the Expert event today. I hope this information was helpful!

Have an amazing day.

AR (CPA 10+ years)

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marctu
Employee Tax Expert

social security

Well congratulations!  So based upon your income alone 85% of the Social Security benefit would be included as income, which puts you at about $154K. 

 

The thing is that both the standard deduction and the tax brackets will be double.  With your soon to be bride making about $10K, she had no taxable income when she was single.   When you are married the standard deduction in 2024 is $29,200 plus $1,950 for age.  That leaves taxable income of about $123K. 

 

Tax brackets 2024: Married filing jointly
 

Tax rate

Taxable income bracket

Taxes owed

10%

$0 to $23,200.

10% of taxable income.

12%

$23,201 to $94,300.

$2,320 plus 12% of the amount over $23,200.

22%

$94,301 to $201,050.

$10,852 plus 22% of the amount over $94,300.

24%

$201,051 to $383,900.

$34,337 plus 24% of the amount over $201,050.

32%

$383,901 to $487,450.

$78,221 plus 32% of the amount over $383,900.

35%

$487,451 to $731,200.

$111,357 plus 35% of the amount over $487,450.

37%

$731,201 or more.

$196,669.50 + 37% of the amount over $731,200.

  
That is approximately $17,132 in tax in 2024.  In 2023, when you were single your tax using your numbers and the standard deduction for single and age ($94,300 taxable income) was around $16,050.   
 
Ultimately you will pay more in tax, but it is not nearly as much as you think it is, since you are getting married.
 
Again congratulations and thank you for the question @perryc1958 
 

All the best,

 

Marc T.

TurboTax Live Tax Expert

27 Years of Experience Helping Clients

 
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