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Is my ESPP comp income included in my W-2 Box 1? Box 14 lists ESPP of $358. But my paystub lists $358 as ESPP earnings and as deductions, so taxable income is unchanged

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So I'm not sure why $358 is listed at all.  Is it to tell me I need to add it to wages?  If this is the case I'm puzzled why it wouldn't have been added to Box 1 already.

Related question.  As context I am very familiar with how to use TurboTax for ESPP.  Upon entering my 1099 and 3922 information from eight different lots I sold last year, TurboTax calculated my ESPP compensation income of $2,000 (nowhere close to $358).  Now I'm very confused.  It appears it has NOT been added to my W-2, but that quirky $358 is showing up on my W-2 for ESPP (which makes no sense).  Help!  I'm so confused.  Maybe it is my payroll that is the problem and not me.  My gut is telling me just to tell TurboTax to treat the $2,000 as income since I'm not seeing it anywhere on W-2 or in paystubs. And ignore the $358 since it was added and subtracted from the same paystub leaving taxable income unchanged.

Best answer by TomYoung

You should really check with your employer here, but typically amounts shown in Box 14 are "memo" notes telling you something about your W-2, usually amounts that are included in Box 1. 

 

I'd say with high confidence that this $358 is included in Box 1.  So, for example, if you have a salary of $30,000 per year, sold some stock acquired via an ESPP and that sale created compensation income of $358, then the Box 1  amount would be $30,358.  The note in Box 14 "explains" to you why you're not seeing "$30,000" in Box 1.

 

"Upon entering my 1099 and 3922 information from eight different lots I sold last year, TurboTax calculated my ESPP compensation income of $2,000 (nowhere close to $358)."

 

Yes, this isn't an uncommon occurrence IF you have a mixture of Qualified and Disqualified sales of the stock acquired via an ESPP AND the employer is only reporting the compensation relating to the Disqualified sales, which frequently is the case.

 

Up until 2014, (if I'm remembering correctly), TurboTax could handle this situation, properly.  That is the "Your Employee Stock Plan Results" page used to present the compensation it calculated ($2,000), asked you how much of this compensation was reported on your W-2 ($358), and then take the difference ($1,642) and include that amount in wages and salary line of the Form 1040. 

 

TurboTax changed that approach - claimed that too many people were confused here - and took away the option to tell TurboTax how much of the compensation was already reported on your W-2.   

Now that page presents a simple question of "Included on your W-2?" to which you can only answer "Yes" or "No" and either choice results in an error on your Form 1040.  Answer "Yes" and the missing $1,642 of compensation is not included as wages, (incorrectly), or answer "No" and the entire $2,000 is added to wages, (incorrectly).  There are some workarounds you can employ here.

 

The first way is to eliminate the Disqualifying trades.  Enter those trades on the default 1099-B entry form and simply correct the basis figure reported by the broker.  You do that by clicking on the "I'll enter additional info on my own" blue button.  On the next page enter the correct basis in the "Corrected cost basis" box.  The correct basis is (number of shares sold) x (correct per share basis, which includes the compensation per share)

TurboTax will report the sale on Form 8949 "as reported by the broker" but will put an adjustment figure into column (g) of the Form, a code "B" into column (f) of the Form, and the correct amount of gain or loss which includes the adjustment.  Those Disqualifying trades are now correctly reported: the compensation element is on the W-2 and you've used the correct basis for the sales.

That will leave only the Qualifying trades having been entered using  the ESPP step by step process and the compensation calculated by TurboTax will only encompass those trades.  Then when you get to that "Your Employee Stock Plan Results" page you would answer "No."  TurboTax will then make the correct adjustment to the wages line of the Form 1040 and those trades will have the correct basis reported on Form 8949.


The other way you could handle this is leave things as they are and answer "Yes" to TurboTax's question about the amount reported on your W-2.  TurboTax will make no adjustment to the wages line of Form 1040, but your trades will be correctly reported.  Then, you tell TurboTax about the wages adjustment needed by:

Starting the "Miscellaneous Income, 1099-A, 11099-C" interview.
Starting the "Other income not already reported on a Form W-2 or Form 1099" interview.
Answering "Yes" on the "Other Wages Received" page.
Entering $0 on the "Wages Earned as a Household Employee" page.
Entering $0 on the "Sick or Disability Pay" page.
Answering "Yes" on the "Any Other Earned Income" page.
Ticking "Other on the "Enter Source of Other Earned Income" page.
Entering a description and an amount on the "Any Other Earned Income" page.

Finally, you could report all the trades as you have, but use a slightly different version of the employer's name for Qualifying and Disqualifying trades.  You could answer "Yes" to the employer under which you reported the Disqualifying trades and answer "No" the employer under which you reported the Qualifying trades.

Tom Young

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Alumni - Champ
June 1, 2019

You should really check with your employer here, but typically amounts shown in Box 14 are "memo" notes telling you something about your W-2, usually amounts that are included in Box 1. 

 

I'd say with high confidence that this $358 is included in Box 1.  So, for example, if you have a salary of $30,000 per year, sold some stock acquired via an ESPP and that sale created compensation income of $358, then the Box 1  amount would be $30,358.  The note in Box 14 "explains" to you why you're not seeing "$30,000" in Box 1.

 

"Upon entering my 1099 and 3922 information from eight different lots I sold last year, TurboTax calculated my ESPP compensation income of $2,000 (nowhere close to $358)."

 

Yes, this isn't an uncommon occurrence IF you have a mixture of Qualified and Disqualified sales of the stock acquired via an ESPP AND the employer is only reporting the compensation relating to the Disqualified sales, which frequently is the case.

 

Up until 2014, (if I'm remembering correctly), TurboTax could handle this situation, properly.  That is the "Your Employee Stock Plan Results" page used to present the compensation it calculated ($2,000), asked you how much of this compensation was reported on your W-2 ($358), and then take the difference ($1,642) and include that amount in wages and salary line of the Form 1040. 

 

TurboTax changed that approach - claimed that too many people were confused here - and took away the option to tell TurboTax how much of the compensation was already reported on your W-2.   

Now that page presents a simple question of "Included on your W-2?" to which you can only answer "Yes" or "No" and either choice results in an error on your Form 1040.  Answer "Yes" and the missing $1,642 of compensation is not included as wages, (incorrectly), or answer "No" and the entire $2,000 is added to wages, (incorrectly).  There are some workarounds you can employ here.

 

The first way is to eliminate the Disqualifying trades.  Enter those trades on the default 1099-B entry form and simply correct the basis figure reported by the broker.  You do that by clicking on the "I'll enter additional info on my own" blue button.  On the next page enter the correct basis in the "Corrected cost basis" box.  The correct basis is (number of shares sold) x (correct per share basis, which includes the compensation per share)

TurboTax will report the sale on Form 8949 "as reported by the broker" but will put an adjustment figure into column (g) of the Form, a code "B" into column (f) of the Form, and the correct amount of gain or loss which includes the adjustment.  Those Disqualifying trades are now correctly reported: the compensation element is on the W-2 and you've used the correct basis for the sales.

That will leave only the Qualifying trades having been entered using  the ESPP step by step process and the compensation calculated by TurboTax will only encompass those trades.  Then when you get to that "Your Employee Stock Plan Results" page you would answer "No."  TurboTax will then make the correct adjustment to the wages line of the Form 1040 and those trades will have the correct basis reported on Form 8949.


The other way you could handle this is leave things as they are and answer "Yes" to TurboTax's question about the amount reported on your W-2.  TurboTax will make no adjustment to the wages line of Form 1040, but your trades will be correctly reported.  Then, you tell TurboTax about the wages adjustment needed by:

Starting the "Miscellaneous Income, 1099-A, 11099-C" interview.
Starting the "Other income not already reported on a Form W-2 or Form 1099" interview.
Answering "Yes" on the "Other Wages Received" page.
Entering $0 on the "Wages Earned as a Household Employee" page.
Entering $0 on the "Sick or Disability Pay" page.
Answering "Yes" on the "Any Other Earned Income" page.
Ticking "Other on the "Enter Source of Other Earned Income" page.
Entering a description and an amount on the "Any Other Earned Income" page.

Finally, you could report all the trades as you have, but use a slightly different version of the employer's name for Qualifying and Disqualifying trades.  You could answer "Yes" to the employer under which you reported the Disqualifying trades and answer "No" the employer under which you reported the Qualifying trades.

Tom Young

dwoodAuthor
Level 2
June 1, 2019
Thank you so much Tom!  Really appreciate the thorough answer and quick follow up.  Interesting to hear that is not uncommon to see this occur with a blend of qualifying and disqualifying lots (which I have).   And thank you for the specific directions on how to report my situation in TurboTax - very helpful and saves me a lot of time.
Level 2
May 21, 2020

Tom,

You seem to know your stuff, as I have come across multiple posts by you. Hoping you can help! I am trying to solve how to treat my ESPP sale, which is qualified and I have met the holding period.

 

While I can manually calculate the ordinary income (what a bore!) - I cannot figure out if my company already includes this income in box 1 or not! There are no memos in box 14 indicating this. I don’t want to double pay (and asking my employer feels like a black box in a giant company that’s outsourced everything). *Note - when I use Turbo Tax to “walk thru” the calculation of how much to adjust my cost basis, it puts the cost basis at zero! Very frustrating.

 

While I have you, I do have info in box 12 code VV - NQSO. The funny thing is... I didn’t realize I had any of those... is that related to RSUs? Or... reinvesting dividend in stock? 

thanks for helping me!

 

- Ana

Alumni - Champ
May 21, 2020

@DIYTaxes 

 

"I cannot figure out if my company already includes this income in box 1 or not!"

 

Very, very commonly Qualified Dispositions are not included in the W-2, so I would guess that's your situation.  That question really has to be asked to your employer.  A Human Resources or Payroll department should really know that off the top of their heads.

 

"Note - when I use Turbo Tax to “walk thru” the calculation of how much to adjust my cost basis, it puts the cost basis at zero!"

 

Nothing has changed that I'm aware of in this part of the program or in this area of the law, but since I decided not to transition to the "Champions!" program I haven't really tried to keep up.  But this area of the program - we're talking about the ESPP "guided" interview - has always worked in the past and properly calculated compensation and basis for the sale of stock acquired via an ESPP.  The basic input is the information from Form 3922 and in the case of a qualified disposition the compensation and basis adjustment is the smaller of the discount at the grant date or the actual profit.  If you're getting a basis of $0 then you're entering something incorrectly.

 

" I do have info in box 12 code VV - NQSO. The funny thing is... I didn’t realize I had any of those... is that related to RSUs?"

 

Both NQSOs and RSUs are considered "non-statutory" options and both create compensation at either exercise (NQSOs) or vesting (RSUs).  I think it's most common to indicate compensation from vesting of RSUs in Box 14, but I know it's sometimes reported in  Box 12 instead.  Either way, you know the amount so you should be able to calculate the basis of the acquired stock.

 

Level 2
April 11, 2023

Hi. Thanks for this discussion.

 

I imported my 1099-B from the broker (or whatever its called) website, and the RSU and ESPP 1099-B was imported into TT. I then went through each of the lines of groups of stock that were sold, and updated the supplemental information by adding in the various prices TT asks for from the 3922 (price on purchase date, grant date, paid price etc). Every time I entered each, for ESPP, my tax due went lower and lower, because the cost basis was going higher, because the cost basis updated to not take into account the 15%, which I believe is correct.

 

I have both long term and short term covered (I dont know if that is qualifying or disqualifying) on my 1099-B.

 

I also left Box 2 (which asks whether it is an ordinary gain or loss) for each of these stocks unchecked, because there was no box 2 on the 1099-B.

 

At the end, when I said done with all the 1099-B accounts, it asked me whether any of the ESPP are included in my W2. For RSU I said yes, but for ESPP, I wasn't sure, so I clicked No, and my tax due jumped up back to the amount that it was before I started entering all the supplemental 3922 information. So all those hours of figuring that out was wasted. What was the point of TT asking me all those questions about updating the cost basis if it will ignore all that anyway?

 

Other information I know is that ESPP is pre-tax.

 

The W2 does mention RSU in box 14. I don't see ESPP specifically listed, but could be in box 1.

 

Thank you.

Level 11
April 11, 2023

Your employer likely included the compensation income for your ESPP on your W-2, particularly if you were still employed by the company when you sold your ESPP shares.  However, to be certain that is the case, you need to check with your employer.  You are correct in that if the ESPP ordinary income element is included on your W-2, it will be added to the wage amount in box 1.  

 

At least some of the information TurboTax needs relates to whether your ESPP sales were qualifying dispositions (sales) or non-qualifying dispositions.  What distinguishes a qualifying disposition from a non-qualifying disposition is timing.  In a qualifying disposition, you meet the holding period if you don't sell your stock until the end of the later of: 

 

  • The 1-year period after the stock was transferred to you, or
  • The 2-year period after the option was granted.

If you meet the above holding period, then your ESPP sale is a qualified disposition, and you are eligible to receive favorable tax treatment as it relates to the compensation element of your ESPP.  

 

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April 12, 2023

Thank you, @GeorgeM777!

 

Yes, still employed, but the company got sold which is why the stock was sold. But the company name remains the same. It just no longer has stocks of its own.

 

Based on your definition, there are some qualifying and some non qualifying.

 

IF ESPP is included in W2 Box 1, is it the capital gain amount that is included? The stock sale amount that is taxable is confusing, because of the many difference in stock prices based on grant date, purchase date, etc and the 15% discount, and also because I am buying stock pre-tax money.

 

I don't think my company included any of the ESPP on the W2 box 1, but what I don't understand is why TT had me enter all that information and tell me that I'm saving on taxes, and THEN ask me if the amount is included in my W2, and upon saying No, it removed all those tax savings. It was such a big effort to figure that out, and turns out, it was pointless. TT should have asked me before hand whether it was included in the W2, and upon me saying no, it could have said, sorry you don't qualify for these tax savings so don't enter all that information, or even if it didn't say that, it could still have me enter the 3922 information, and as I did and increased each of the cost basis, it would then NOT have reduced my tax due amount and I'd know immediately that it is not worth entering in the ESPP information. The ESPP seemed pointless and it seemed only the 1099-B was needed, considering ESPP income was not included in W2 box 1.