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mkdharne
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My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

He paid co-op fee as well. 


1) He earned 10k but did not pay anything living expenses out of his 10k.

2) Unfortunately, spring semester was from January through April (4 months) with 18 credit hours.

3) He worked from May through December on Co-op as part of the undergraduate degree.

4) He paid Co-op fee in fall semester.

5) Can I claim him as a dependent?

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KarenJ
Intuit Alumni

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

As my TurboTax colleague VanessaIA responded to a similar question:

"A full-time student is a child who during some part of each of any 5 calendar months of the year was enrolled as a full-time student at a school, or took a full-time on-farm training course given by a school or a state, county, or local government agency. A school includes a technical, trade, or mechanical school. It doesn't include an on-the-job training course, correspondence school, or school offering courses only through the Internet."https://taxmap.irs.gov/taxmap/pub17/p17-155.htm#TXMP172a931f


mkdharne
New Member

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

He attended only January through April end (Spring semester) for four months. Co-op is part of the undergraduate degree (with small co-op fee). Next two semesters he did co-op with a company. Co-op did not have credit hours. The University site says "Students who register for a co-op term and pay the co-op fee are considered full-time students by the university.".
Carl
Level 15

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

You're fine then. The IRS defines a full time student, "as determined by the college".
mkdharne
New Member

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

Thanks. Are there any pointers to "as determined by the college"? The 5 months condition is listed everywhere.
Hal_Al
Level 15

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

No. I know you're looking for confirmation.  But, what you already have ( "Students who register for a co-op term and pay the co-op fee are considered full-time students by the university." is the best statement I have seen on the topic The school has done their homework  and is looking after the students and parents, tax wise. I'm of the opinion they've done you a favor, charging you a fee, to make it "official".
Carl
Level 15

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

Please read the below to understand how this education stuff works. Two things to point out first:

1) Your student's earnings do not matter. The student could earn a million dollars and still qualify as your dependent.

2) There is not requirement for you the parent to provide your student any support.Not one single penny. The support requirement is on the student, and only the student. 3rd party income (scholarships, grants, money from mom and dad, gifts from Aunt Mary, etc.) do not count for the student providing more than half of their own support.

College Education Expenses

Colleges work in academic years, while the IRS works in calendar years. So the reality is, it takes you 5 calendar years to get that 4 year degree. With that said:

 - Scholarships and grants are claimed/reported as taxable income (initially) in the year they are received. It does not matter what year that scholarship or grant is *for*

- Tuition and other qualified education expenses are reported/claimed in the tax year they are paid. It does not matter what year they pay *for*.

Understand that figuring out who claims the student as a dependent, and determining who claims the education expenses & credits, is two different determinations. It depends on the specific situation as outlined below. After you read it, I have also attached a chart at the bottom. You can click on the chart to enlarge it so you can read it. If it’s still to hard to read on your screen then right-click on the enlarged image and elect to save it to your computer. Then you can double-click the saved image file on your computer to open it, and it will be even easier to read.

Here’s the general rules gisted from IRS Publication 970 at http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p970.pdf Some words are in bold, italicized, or capitalized just for emphasis. This is because correct interpretation by the reader is everything. Take the below contents LITERALLY, and do not try to “read between the lines”. If you do, you’ll interpret it incorrectly and risk reporting things wrong on your taxes. For example, there is a vast difference between “can be claimed” and “must be claimed”.  The first one indicates a choice. The second one provides no choice.

Now there are two separate determinations to be made here.

  1. Who claims the student as a dependent.

  2. Who reports all the education expenses and claims all the education credits.

     

    First, who claims the student as a dependent?

    If the student:

    Is under the age of 24 on Dec 31 of the tax year and:

    Is enrolled in an undergraduate program at an accredited institution and:

    Is enrolled as a full time student for one academic semester that begins during the tax year, (each institution has their own definition of a full time student) and:

    the STUDENT did NOT provide more that 50% of the STUDENT’S support (schollarships/grants received by the student ***do not count*** as the student providing their own support)

    Then:

    The parents qualify to claim the student as a dependent on the parent's tax return . Period, End of Story. But one thing I want to point out here. The parents *QUALIFY* to claim the student. The parents are *NOT* required to claim the student as a dependent. But even if they don’t, since they *qualify* to claim the student, then if the student will be filing their own tax return the student is *REQUIRED* to select the option for “I can be claimed on someone else’s return”.  To reiterate:

    If the student qualifies to be claimed on the parent’s tax return, then the student can not take the self-exemption on their own tax return, no …matter…what.

     

    Who reports all the education expenses and claims all the credits?

    If (and only if) the parents qualify to claim the student as a dependent, *and* the parents actually are claiming the student as a dependent, then:

    The parents will claim all schollarships, grants, tuition payments, and the student's 1098-T on the parent's tax return and:

    The parents will claim all educational tax credits that qualify.

    If the student will be filing a tax return and:

    The parents qualify to claim the student as a dependent, then:

    The student must select the option for "I can be claimed on someone else's return", on the student's tax return. The student must select this option even f the parent's qualify to claim the student as a dependent, and the parents do not claim them.

     

    Here’s when the parents will claim the student as a dependent, but the parents will NOT claim any of the education expenses or report the 1098-T on the parent’s tax return.

     

    .If the amount of scholarships/grants/529 funds exceeds the amount of qualified education expenses,  then the student will report the education stuff on the student’s tax return. The parent will know this when reporting the education on their tax return, because the parent will not qualify for any of the tax credits. (They only qualify for tax credits based on out-of-pocket qualified expenses not covered by scholarships/grants.)  Also, the parent’s will not qualify for the credits depending on their MAGI which is different for each credit, and depends on the marital status of the parent or parents.

    In the case where scholarships/grants covers “all” qualified education expenses, the parent’s don’t need to report educational information on their dependent student at all – but they still claim the student as a dependent if they “qualify” to claim the student.

     If the scholarships/grants exceed the qualified education expenses, then the student will report the 1098-T and all other educational expenses and scholarships/grants on the student’s tax return. The student will pay taxes on the amount of scholarships/grants that are not used for qualified education expenses. However, if the student’s earned income reported on a W-2, when added to the excess scholarships/grants does NOT exceed $6350, then the student doesn’t even need to file a tax return, and nothing has to be reported.

    If the student has any other taxable income not reported on a W-2, and it exceeds $400, (not including taxable portion of scholarships/grants) then most likely it’s considered self-employment income. That will require a tax return to be filed and the student will have to pay the Self-Employment tax on that income.

    Finally, regardless of the student’s W-2 earnings, if any taxes were withheld on those earnings and it was less than $6350, then the student should file a tax return so as to get those withheld taxes refunded.

     

    1099-Q Funds

 First, scholarships & grants are applied to qualified education expenses. The only qualified expenses for scholarships and grants are tuition, books, and lab fees. that's it. If there is any excess, then it's taxable income. It automatically gets transferred to and included in the total on line 7 of the 1040.

Next, 529/Coverdell funds reported on 1099-Q are applied to qualified education expenses. The qualified expenses for 1099-Q funds are tuition, books, lab fees, AND room & board. That's it. If there are any excess 1099-Q funds they are taxable. The amount is included in the total on line 7..

Finally, out of pocket money is applied to qualified education expenses. The only qualified expenses for out of pocket money is tuition, books, and lab fees. Room & board is NOT a qualified expense for out of pocket money. As of this writing, (3/26/2019) congress as not renewed the out of pocket expense deduction, which expired in 2017.

When you have a 1099-Q it is extremely important that you work through the education section of the program in the order it is designed and intended to be used. If you do not, then there is a high probability that you will not be asked for room & board expenses, and you could therefore be TAXED on your 1099-Q funds.

Finally, if "all" qualified expenses are covered by scholarships, grants, 1099-Q funds and there is ANY of those funds left over, the left over excess is taxable. While the parent can still claim the student as a dependent, it is the student who will report all the education stuff on the student's tax return. That's because the STUDENT pays the taxes on any excess scholarships, grants and 1099-Q funds.


Hal_Al
Level 15

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

Yes, he still qualifies as your dependent. The co-op time is a school-approved program for which academic credit was granted, and counts as full time attendance (since he was full time for the previous academic session).

As you surmised, his income is irrelevant. It's the support test that matters.

Carl
Level 15

My 20 years old son living with me attended spring semester for 4 months and did co-op in summer/fall earning $10k. Can I claim him as a dependent (full-time student)?

If the student only earned $10K in 2018, then there's no way the student provided more than half of their own support. Just the tuition alone could cost that much quite easily.
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