I am confused and looking for some help regarding my daughters scholarships
We received a 1098-T with 25000 in box 5 and 11766 in box one ,all of this is for 2020, as to say it was not designated for the start of another year.
I would like some advise on how to file this between my return and hers as I am aware she needs to file based on the amounts.
I see the workaround to split the qualified and non qualified expenses between the 2 but can't wrap my head around how to do it!
All of her scholarships allowed use for both (Pell Grant, Obama Scholarship,Provosts award)
Could someone give me some scenarios based on these numbers?
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You can both use the 1098-T to enter the expenses. If you claim the tuition credit, you do need to report that she got one (the TurboTax interview will handle this) Your student should use the 1098-T because it makes entering scholarship income go smoother and puts the income in the right place on the tax forms (line 1 of form 1040 with the notation “SCH”).
You essentially have to use a work around in TurboTax (TT). Here's how I would do it. Enter the 1098-T, on your return, but only enter $4000 in box 1. No other numbers. You only enter the 1098-T to get TurboTax to check the proper box on form 8863. Lying to TurboTax to get it to do what you want does not constitute lying to the IRS.
Enter the 1098-T, exactly as received, on the student's return. Enter book expenses separately. In his interview, you should eventually reach a screen called "Amount used to calculate education deduction or credit" Be sure the amount in that box is $4000. That will put all his excess scholarship as income on his return.
Be advised some people are saying they're not getting the "Amount used to claim the tuition deduction or credit" screen on the dependent’s . The alternate workaround is to enter $4000 less than the actual box 1 amount, when you enter the 1098-T
There's yet another (and simplest) work around. Manually calculate the taxable amount of scholarship and enter the 1098-T, on his return, with 0 in box 1 and the taxable amount in box 5. In that case be sure the amount in the "Amount used to claim the tuition deduction or credit" box is 0.
You can both use the 1098-T to enter the expenses. If you claim the tuition credit, you do need to report that she got one (the TurboTax interview will handle this) Your student should use the 1098-T because it makes entering scholarship income go smoother and puts the income in the right place on the tax forms (line 1 of form 1040 with the notation “SCH”).
You essentially have to use a work around in TurboTax (TT). Here's how I would do it. Enter the 1098-T, on your return, but only enter $4000 in box 1. No other numbers. You only enter the 1098-T to get TurboTax to check the proper box on form 8863. Lying to TurboTax to get it to do what you want does not constitute lying to the IRS.
Enter the 1098-T, exactly as received, on the student's return. Enter book expenses separately. In his interview, you should eventually reach a screen called "Amount used to calculate education deduction or credit" Be sure the amount in that box is $4000. That will put all his excess scholarship as income on his return.
Be advised some people are saying they're not getting the "Amount used to claim the tuition deduction or credit" screen on the dependent’s . The alternate workaround is to enter $4000 less than the actual box 1 amount, when you enter the 1098-T
There's yet another (and simplest) work around. Manually calculate the taxable amount of scholarship and enter the 1098-T, on his return, with 0 in box 1 and the taxable amount in box 5. In that case be sure the amount in the "Amount used to claim the tuition deduction or credit" box is 0.
On your return claim the American Opportunity Credit assuming she qualifies for you to do so. Your qualified education expenses would be the amount in boy1 plus books and any additional qualified education expenses. Your daughter would report on her own return the scholarship income which is the scholarship amount minus the qualified education expenses. You will probably be prompted to pay Kiddie tax on that amount.
You can read about the Kiddie tax here
https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/income/help/what-is-the-kiddie-tax/00/25913/amp
Hal-Al
Thank for the quick reply,
I am assuming that I file her as a dependent and she claims that I did?
Something I forgot in the original post, she also has W-2 income of roughly $11300.00 so adding the scholarship income puts her at around 21K and the way I have added the numbers before have her being taxed at my tax bracket. Thoughts?
That is correct. Because she is a full time student, under 24, and claimed as a dependent, she is subject to the "kiddie tax" (where a student's unearned income is taxed at the parent's marginal rate). Scholarship income is classified as unearned income for purposes of the kiddie tax; even though it goes on line 1 of form 1040, with wages.
Hal-Al
I have gone through the interview process several times and I am not finding anywhere it asks"Amount used to calculate education deduction or credit"
If I do the other workaround and enter the manual calculation for the taxable portion, do I still claim the 4K on my return?
It troubling because I don't see that phrase anywhere in the forms etc.
Q. If I do the other workaround and enter the manual calculation for the taxable portion, do I still claim the 4K on my return?
A. Yes
Q. "It troubling because I don't see that phrase anywhere in the forms etc."
A. It's not on any IRS forms. It's line 17 of the TT student information worksheet. You may be able to change it there (I know you can with the download software)
Got it!
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