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Grandparent owner 529 plan

I have a 529 plan for my granddaughter. In July I took out $10k and sent it to her college. Her tuition was more than that. In the past, I have been able to offset the earnings distribution on my taxes by entering the tuition information. I don't see a way to do that now. She has never been a dependent. Can I continue to offset the earnings to avoid paying taxes on them?

 

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Grandparent owner 529 plan

Q. Can I continue to offset the earnings to avoid paying taxes on them?

A. Yes.  Actually you must have expenses equal to or more than the total distribution amount (box 1 of the 1099-Q) not just the earnings amount (box 2). 

 

Currently, there is a glitch in TurboTax that is preventing the entering of all expenses (mostly room and board). That is scheduled to be fixed sometime Friday. 

 

But if you are using up all the tuition for the 529 distribution, the parents may be missing out on a generous tuition credit. Read on for a full explanation.

 

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent, but can be the grandparent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student or grandparent's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so they can claim the education credit. They can do this because she is their dependent and even though the tuition was actually paid by the grandparent's 529 plan. 

They can and should claim the tuition credit before you claim the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses you claim for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses they claim for the credit. Room and board (R&B) are also qualified expenses for the 529 distribution, but not the AOC (R&B are also not qualified expenses for a scholarship to be tax free).
But be aware, the family can not double dip. They cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets you an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan or vice versa. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the earnings exclusion. Another special rule allows them to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if you are unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because she got scholarships or the expenses were used (by her or the parents) to claim the credits. You'll have to pay tax on the earnings, but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses (including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax. 

DaveF1006
Employee Tax Expert

Grandparent owner 529 plan

The IRS instructions state that if a 529 distribution total is not more than the beneficiary's qualified education expenses, you do not need to report the 1099-Q on your tax return.  This is mentioned in Publication 970, Chapter 7, under the heading "Are Distributions Taxable."

 

You and your granddaughter should keep the 1099-Q form and receipts for tuition paid for at least 3 years in case the IRS audits you. You don't need to enter them into tax software if the money was used for tuition.

 

If you have entered the 1099-Q, you can delete it from your return.  Here is the best way to do this. 

 

  • Tax Tools
  • Tools 
  • Delete a form
  • Delete form 1099Q

If working in Desktop, go to the forms mode. Locate form 1099Q, select it, and then delete it at the bottom of the form when it appears in the right pane of your screen

 


 

 

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