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Education expenses, 529 and credits

We claim my daughter (19) as a dependent on married filing jointly return. She is the beneficiary and recipient of a 529 plan, of which we are NOT the owners.   She has very small W2 income.
Can I input 1098-T, 1099-Q and her W2 income (if required) on our Joint tax return or does she have to file her own? (Can we answer "Yes" to the question "Did you receive a form 1099-Q" since she is our dependent"?) 

Edited to clarify: 

1.  Qualified expenses were greater than 529 distributions

2.  Other non-qualified expenses were paid out of pocket by us - can these be deducted?

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Education expenses, 529 and credits

 Q. Can we answer "Yes" to the question "Did you receive a form 1099-Q" since she is our dependent"?

A. No.  Only she can enter the 1099-Q, if needed (and it usually isn't), because she is the "recipient".  Had the owner been the recipient, only he could enter it (again, usually not needed)

 

Q. Can I input 1098-T, 1099-Q and her W2 income (if required) on our Joint tax return or does she have to file her own?

A. Only the  1098-T can go on your return (and usually does). Because she is your dependent, only you can claim the tuition credit. The W-2 must go on her return, if she has a filing requirement.

 

Q.  Other non-qualified expenses were paid out of pocket by us - can these be deducted?

A. No. Only qualified expenses (tuition, fees, books and a computer) can be used to claim a tuition credit.

 

Note room and board is not a qualified expense for the tuition credit (or for tax free scholarship) but is a qualified expense for a 529 distribution. 

 

If you do not have $2000 (preferably $4000) of qualified expenses for the American Opportunity Tuition Credit (AOTC), you should seriously consider her paying some tax on the 529 distribution to free up more tuition for the AOTC, on your tax return. The AOTC is 100% of the 1st $2000 and 25% of the 2nd $2000.

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax. 

Education expenses, 529 and credits

Thank you - that was helpful, albeit confusing.
So, the amount on the 1098-T, that we enter on our (Parents) return is WAY more than we need for the tax credit,  but our student does not show enough qualified expenses on her returns, thus needs to pay taxes on the difference.   

Can I split the amount from the 1098-T between our two returns so that we get the credit and she can claim the qualified expenses?

Hal_Al
Level 15

Education expenses, 529 and credits

Q. Can I split the amount from the 1098-T between our two returns so that we get the credit and she can claim the remaining qualified expenses?

A.  Yes,  you are free to allocate the available expenses for the best tax outcome for the family. 

 

There are three things you can do with your Qualified educational expenses (QEE):

  1. Allocate then to scholarships (so that the scholarship remains tax free)
  2. Use them to claim an education credit
  3. Allocate them to the 529 distribution (1099-Q) so that it will not all be taxable

Provide the following info for more specific help:

  • Are you the student or parent.
  • Is the  student  the parent's dependent.
  • Box 1 of the 1098-T
  • box 5 of the 1098-T
  • Any other scholarships not shown in box 5
  • Does box 5 include any of the 529/ESA plan payments (it should not)
  • Is any of the Scholarship restricted; i.e. it must be used for tuition
  • Box 1 of the 1099-Q
  • Box 2 of the 1099-Q
  • Who’s name and SS# are on the 1099-Q, parent or student (who’s the “recipient”)?
  • Room & board paid. If student lives off campus, what is school's R&B on campus charge. If he lives at home, the school’s R&B “allowance for cost of attendance” for student living with parents.
  • Other qualified expenses not included in box 1 of the 1098-T, e.g. books & computers
  • How much taxable income does the student have, from what sources
  • Are you trying to claim the tuition credit (are you eligible)?
  • Is the student an undergrad or grad student?
  • Is the student a degree candidate attending school half time or more?

Education expenses, 529 and credits

Again, thank you, very helpful. 

Re: 

"Q. Can I split the amount from the 1098-T between our two returns so that we get the credit and she can claim the remaining qualified expenses?

A.  Yes,  you are free to allocate the available expenses for the best tax outcome for the family. "

 

Q2:   How do I actually enter the 1098-T allocation information on two different returns in Turbo Tax?   Just edit Box 1  information ?   As long as the two amounts add up to the actual Box 1 data?  
Thank you. 

Hal_Al
Level 15

Education expenses, 529 and credits

Q.  How do I actually enter the 1098-T allocation information on two different returns in Turbo Tax?   Just edit Box 1  information ?   As long as the two amounts add up to the actual Box 1 data?  

 

Theoretically, you can enter the 1098-T, as is, on both returns and TT will come to the right conclusion. But it can get messy. 

 

It's best if you have some idea of the outcome expected, when you make your entries. In addition to entering numbers, you must complete the “Education Information” sub-section. In particular, be on the lookout for a screen “education expenses used for a tax credit”. It will usually be prepopulated (sometimes with $10K instead of the more appropriate $4K). You can change it for the amount you want to allocate to the ed credit($4000 in your case). 

 

So, yes, you can just adjust the box 1 amounts.  In that case the  “education expenses used for a tax credit” box needs to be 0 (you already made that adjustment). 

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