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I’m to understand how to process the scholarship refund check for 2021. My son is a graduate student and is a dependent on my tax return. His tuition was directly paid to school from his aunt’s Michigan 529 for both semesters in 2021. Room and board expenses were funded thru my 529 account. We have not filed 1099-Q and 1098-T with our tax returns in prior years since we always matched education expenses with the distribution.
He was supposed to receive a scholarship, but it didn’t get applied until after tuition was paid. So he received a residual refund check for $1750 in each semester, which he cashed. I’m trying to figure out how to account for $3500 on his tax return. The actual numbers are:
1099-Q - 1 Distribution $27,561 2 Earnings $14,850 3 Basis $12,711
1098-T - Payments received: $27,211, Scholarships or grants: $3,500
I expected the taxable amount to be $1885.8 (proportional to earnings) + 1885.8 * 10% (penalty). Can I just calculate that and put the amount on his tax turn under other income?
These are the steps I already tried:
I enter the 1098-T alone on my tax return, but that alone doesn’t do much with finding the taxable portion of $3500
Entered 1098-T and 1099-Q in my tax return, TT comes up with $7462 taxable income for my son.
Entered Q form in my son’s tax return and T in my tax return, same the result of $7462
I even tired putting both Q and T in his return (even thought I understand I need to put the T with my return since his dependent), it also came out with $7462
1099-Q sheet has the following info in QTP Computation of Tax Distribution section
For purpose of for purpose of 10%
Regular tax additional tax
1 27,561 27,561
2a
2b 0 0
2c 13,711 27,211
2d 13,711 27,211
3 13,850 350
4 14,850 14850
5 .4975 .9873
6 7.388 14,661
7 7462 189
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The short answer is the penalty amount is added to the earnings and entered as one number as other income.
I'm not sure I follow the numbers, wondering if you ae applying for an education credit.
Additionally, if your son has other earned or unearned income, you might be better having him claim the scholarship.
Scholarship income is claimed as "earned Income" under
Income
Less common Income
Miscellaneous Income
Other income not already reported on a Form W-2 or For 1099
Select "Yes" to other wages
Continue through to a description box and enter "SCH" and amount
There are three things you can do with your Qualified educational expenses (QEE):
TurboTax allocates QEE, in that order, until you tell it otherwise
Note that 27,211 -13,711 (from lines 2c & 2d) = $13,500. TurboTax is applying $10,000 of expenses to the Lifetime Learning Credit and allocating $3500 of expenses to the scholarship, thereby making some of the 1099-Q taxable. Details are on the Student Info worksheet.
Your bottom line appears to be $3500 of the scholarship is taxable and $189 of the 1099-Q earnings is taxable and subject to the penalty (10% additional tax). If you can come up with $350 of books & computer expenses, you can eliminate that $189. If the student has no other income, the $3500 scholarship is not enough to have to file.
If that's the case, nobody needs to report either of the 1099-Qs.
You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
You have $1120 of taxable income
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.
Q. Can I just calculate the taxable amount of the 1099-Q and put that on his tax turn under other income?
A. Simple answer: No. In actuality, yes, but you would still need to calculate the 10% penalty or generate form 5329 to claim a penalty exception. There is no way to do that, except by going thru the 1099-Q/1098-T interview or in the forms mode.
To clarify. How did you enter your information? Did you enter as a beneficiary and recipient? Are you both the beneficiary and recipient on this account?
After entering Q and T forms on my son’s tax return, Form 5329 has the following in the Education section
5 Distributions included in income from a Coverdell ESA, a QTP, or an ABLE account $7426
Worksheet section
C included in income because beneficiary received tax-free scholarship or other assistance 1,886
E included only because expenses were taken into account in
determining American Opportunity or lifetime learning credit 5,387
6 distribution included on line that are not subject to additional tax 7273
7 amount subject to additional tax 189
8 additional tax. Enter 10% of line 7 19
1886 makes sense it’s the earning portion of $3500, and I expected that to be the taxable amount
Can’t make sense of E, I’m not getting AP or lifetime learning credit. Is there a way to have TT not do the credit determination. The only AP credit I had was in year 2017 for $1500.
No, the credit determination has to be calculated when you have both the 1099-Q and the 1098-T. There will not be an AOTC or Lifetime Learning Credit for your son since the total of the 529 distribution and the Scholarship/Grants exceed the tuition. The excess is taxed as other income.
Some additional information for you to consider when you have both a 1098-T and a 1099-Q:
Re: Entering 1099-Q and 1098-T information increases my Fed and state taxes
If you have entered your 1099-Q and your 1098-T and you have excess then the excess will be treated as income.
You are not required to report a 1098-T on your tax return. To calculate if you are eligible for AOTC, take the amount in Box 5 (scholarships) of the 1098-T and subtract the amount in Box 1, this is the amount that would be eligible for the tuition credit. If you received more in scholarships Box 5 than the tuition in Box 1, the excess is taxable and should be reported as Other Income. However, if the amount in Box 1 is more than Box 5, then you might not want to report the 1098-T.
Funds distributed from a 529 Plan, will be reported by the bank on a Form 1099-Q. The 1099-Q is sent to the owner/recipient of the 529 Plan funds. The Form 1099-Q is to be reported as income if they were not used to pay qualified college tuition/expenses. If the amount reported on the 1099-Q were used to cover qualified college tuition/expenses you do not need to report the income. If the amount exceeds the amount of college tuition/ expenses then the excess needs to be reported as other income on your 1040.
In summary, if the 1099-Q distribution is enough to cover the tuition, room and board, other expenses, and Box 1 of the 1098-T is more than Box 5, then you might not want to report the 1098-T as this will create excess income and you will have to report the income as other income. The 1098-Q does not have to be reported, but it does need to be taken into consideration and if you are going to attempt to get the AOTC credit, then you do need to report the 1099-Q on your taxes, which in your case, comes out that you owe income. The 1098-Q should also be reported if the distribution was more than your tuition, room and board, etc.
Either way, there is no AOTC or Lifetime Learning Credit for your son.
Where do I put the 10% penalty, I know the taxable amount is $1886 and 10% penalty, need to know where to put them in TT. I can put the $1886 under other income section, where do I put the %10 penalty? form 5329 doesn't work since it requires a Q and T form, which results in $7426 vs the actual $1886 taxable amount.
The short answer is the penalty amount is added to the earnings and entered as one number as other income.
I'm not sure I follow the numbers, wondering if you ae applying for an education credit.
Additionally, if your son has other earned or unearned income, you might be better having him claim the scholarship.
Scholarship income is claimed as "earned Income" under
Income
Less common Income
Miscellaneous Income
Other income not already reported on a Form W-2 or For 1099
Select "Yes" to other wages
Continue through to a description box and enter "SCH" and amount
Thanks for explaining the process.
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