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Level 2
May 24, 2022
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Capitalized Guaranteed Payments

  • May 24, 2022
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Our LLC pays each partner guaranteed payments. Some of the GPs for services are for business activity and some are for rental activity. Of course, the TurboTax for Business GP entry page provides two boxes for me to separate the GPs by activity type. Some of our GPs for each type of activity are true expenses, while some belong in capital accounts. For the rental activity, this is not a problem as TT does not automatically deduct the GPs. So, I can enter the GPs that are expenses under each property (and more or less ignore capitalized GPs for rental activity).

 

However, TT automatically includes all business activity GPs as a deduction on Form 1065, pg. 1, line 10. How can I deduct only the business GPs that should be deducted (not including capitalized GPs) but include all business activity GPs (including capitalized GPs) on Schedule K?

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Level 15
May 24, 2022

You might very well have to resort to entry in Forms Mode.

 

I will also page @Rick19744 since you have two different types of activities. 

Rick19744
Level 13
Level 13
May 25, 2022

I guess I need some more facts as I'm not real clear on the end goal:

  • Guaranteed payments (GP) are paid to a partner (member) and are determined independent of the partnership's (LLC) operating results.
  • These amounts are paid for providing services or capital to the partnership / LLC.
  • These GPs are reported on the partners tax return in the year they are deducted by the partnership.
  • GPs are always ordinary income to the respective partner / member
  • Guaranteed payments do not impact the capital account of a partner / member
  • Since you have active trades and businesses, I need to understand why some GPs need to be capitalized

 

*A reminder that posts in a forum such as this do not constitute tax advice.Also keep in mind the date of replies, as tax law changes.
vbwilksAuthor
Level 2
May 25, 2022

The business activity is flipping houses. The partner receives guaranteed payments for his construction services, which are part of our basis/investment in each property.

Level 15
May 25, 2022

@vbwilks wrote:

The business activity is flipping houses. The partner receives guaranteed payments for his construction services, which are part of our basis/investment in each property.


That is easily understood but it still does not address the following bullet point posted by @Rick19744:

 

  • Since you have active trades and businesses, I need to understand why some GPs need to be capitalized