Estimated Tax Payment Form doesn't work

[Frogdog99]

The Estimated Tax Payment Form doesn't work.  It defaults to 100% (110%) of your 20-24 Taxes... in the top box with the 4 choices.  Selecting any of the other three choices erases the voucher values and takes you to another unrelated form.  None of the number entires are editable.  Selecting one of the first three boxes results in the corresponding value being blank and not editable.  There is currently no way to adjust the amounts in the vouchers.  The default is too high.  

In the second section, it shows a Taxes due after withholding (third line) value that is too high with no indication where it is coming from and no way to adjust it.

I've wasted a few hours now trying to get this to work and made three calls to the support line only to get cut off each time (average wait time 30 minutes each).  I did get through once to a person that then transferred me to another and then got cut off part way through describing the problem to the second person.

I've been using this product for many years and have always had some bugginess to it, but this year by far is the worst.  First the tax summary page wouldn't print (was missing) from the printouts and now this.  At least the State version of this form works, but meanwhile I'm stuck with incorrect Federal vouchers.

This is crazy!  

[guywong]

What are you trying to do?  I have TT Home and Business and the Estimated Tax Payment Options worksheet works for me.  The 100% (110%) option, IMO, is the safest option.  The amounts in Tax Amount column are calculated values, not editable by design.

Since you said TT initially selected the 100% (110%) option (and calculated 2025 ES taxes), it makes sense that the 2025 ES taxes would be reduced or even eliminated by selecting any of the other 3 options,   When I select any of the other 3 options, the amounts in the 2nd box (Amount of Estimated Taxes to Pay in 2025), and amounts in the 5th box (Schedule of Estimated Tax Payments for 2025) change.

I would recommend rounding the 2025 ES payments to the next $10 or even $100 because for many people, the amount of withholding generally decreases as the IRS tax table is adjusted with COLA.

[Frogdog99]

I'm trying to select one of the other options and also update the values on the row.  The rounding option works fine but the values are too high as the form isn't working properly and allowing other value modifications.  It isn't allowing any updates and when clicking on the other choices in the first box/section of the form.  Clicking other options takes me to  other unrelated forms.

[Frogdog99]

It seems the edit feature for my last reply doesn't work :(

I have used this form successfully a month or so ago on a different return.  Something has broken since.

[baldietax · Accepted solution]

if you are trying to work out ES based on 2025 estimate, try going thru the interview screens under Other Tax Situations / Form W4 and Estimated Taxes rather than trying to do it via Forms.

[guywong]

As  I said, the amounts are calculated by TT and you can''t change them.  The amount is the first box is based on one of the four choices you selected.  The 100% (110%) of 2024 total taxes is exactly that. I don't know enough about the other 3 boxes, I assume TT will use the 2025 tax table to calculate the 90%, 100% and 66-2/3%.

2025 Tax Brackets and Federal Income Tax Rates | Tax Foundation

TT assumes your 2025 withholding to be exactly the same as 2024.

The TT worksheet works for me, I just tested it.

[Frogdog99]

Doing this was tedious but got me a lot  closer to what I'm shooting for.  Thanks!

They really need to fix entry via the form though; much easier that way.  It worked a month or so ago.

Another option would be for Turbotax to allow manual edit/entry onto the vouchers themselves or even allow printing of blank forms.  

[Frogdog99]

As noted in my description, the form isn't working correctly.  Selecting other options is not behaving correctly.  It used a month or so ago, but not now.  The other suggestion in this thread allowed me to work around it.