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Can I deduct the MTM account's unrealized loss from other non-MTM account realized gains?

I have a $50000 realized capital gain from a non-MTM account. If I have a $3000 unrealized loss from my MTM account at the end of the year, can I deduct the $3000 from the $50000 as my income?

 

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I have no other income. The MTM account is empty at the beginning of this year. 

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Can I deduct the MTM account's unrealized loss from other non-MTM account realized gains?

It doesn't quite work that way. The $50K is taxed as capital gain - long-term or short-term depending on the holding period for each security. under the MTM election gains and losses are ordinary not capital and are reported on form 4797. so the MTM loss will first offset any other ordinary income you have. There is no $3000 cap on MTM account losses since they are ordinary.  also don't forget that at the beginning of the year, unless this is your first year trading and had no positions in the MTM account at the beginning of the year, you have an unrealized gain or loss at the beginning of the year which must be taken into account to determine you current year profit or loss as determined under the MTM rules.    

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Can I deduct the MTM account's unrealized loss from other non-MTM account realized gains?

Thank you for your reply.

The unrealized loss will offset the ordinary income first. If the total ordinary income is less than the unrealized loss, the capital gain (investment income) will be offset. Is that right?

 

Or the capital gain cannot be used to offset the unrealized loss because their tax rates are not the same?

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