Received more than 100k from non US parent, some gifts are higher and some are lower than $5k. If the table in 54 (a), (b), (c) is only for gifts above $5k, the total FMV in (c) will not include the all gifts. Correct? Should I enter the total amount received somewhere? Gifts: different securities, on different dates.
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That is correct. Part IV is required to be completed when any gift from a nonresident aggregates over $100,000 during the tax year, then only the gifts exceeding the $5,000 threshold get reported. This does mean that the amounts listed in part IV may not match the aggregate overall amounts received in the event you received gifts below the $5,000 threshold. These amounts would not be reported anywhere else per the instructions for Form 3520.
Excellent. Thank you! I do have a follow up question based on other discussions I read, where some recommend to “aggregate” but do not mentioned how that impact the Total gift disclosed.
Let's say I received 4 securities:
1/1/23 Apple Stock FMV $2k
2/2/23 AMEX Stock FMV $100k
6/6/23 Vanguard Mutual Fund VTSAX $10k
7/7/23 Fidelity Mutual Fund FXAIX $4k
Total Gift $116k
Question: Table in line 54 should be “Aggregate” or "Detail"?
Option "Aggregate":
Various Dates (a) / Stocks (b) / $102k (c)
Various Dates (a) / Mutual Funds (b) / $14k (c)
Total $116k
Option “Detail”:
2/2/23 AMEX Stock $100k
6/6/23 Vanguard Mutual Fund VTSAX $10k
Total $110k
The "aggregate" option Total would be $6k higher than "Detail"
The detail option would be the correct method for reporting the amounts requested in the details for line 54.
You would check the yes box to the question asking if you received more than $100,000 during the year. However, in the table, you would only enter those gifts that exceeded the $5,000 reporting threshold. It is possible the overall gift amount will not match the gifts reported in the total box on line 54.
The following screenshots are from the actual Form 3520 and from the specific line instructions for that corresponding section.
@Diegos , while agreeing with my colleague @JotikaT2 , I would like to ask you to consider what information the form is trying to gather. As you can see from the structure of the form and the instructions thereto, it is one that was designed for dealing with foreign trusts which are associated with US persons and has been co-opted to deal with gifts, bequeathals etc. to a US person from a foreign person/ estate etc. For Part IV specifically all it is trying to get is the information about large donors -- thus the two step data collection --- First you check the box for threshold determination ( US$ 100,000 ) and second , list ONLY those gifts/ bequeathals above a threshold of US$5000. The instructions also suggest that even after meeting the qualifying amount of US$1000,000, you write on the first line of the table for line 54, " No Gifts or Bequests exceed $5000" .
Given the above I would suggest that in case you have a mix of gifts that are above and below the 5000 threshold, You list those that are equal or above US$5000 individually ( as required ) and then on the fist empty line in column (b) write -- XX number of gifts / bequests are below US$ 5000 and ( if you so choose ) add the aggregate value of those gifts . This will provide all the info the form requires and additionally match the total of all gifts/bequests for the current tax year. This path also has the benefit of recognizing the all gifts , just in case you get audited .
Does this make sense ?
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