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Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

Could this be an error in the 2015 TT program?  I went back and looked at it and it shows on 8889 that I did indicate that I withdrew the $57, but it seems like TT failed to generate the 5329 form.  I went back through the 2015 HSA interview, and it seems like it generated the 5329 form this time, but I think the 5329 is blank, I don't see $57 indicated anywhere on it.

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

I've been running some more tests, it seems like 5329 might not be required for filing, it doesn't seem to be generated on the printed return if you leave only print required documents for filing.  I see on form 8889 that I filed that line 11 said $3407 and line 8 said $3350.  I think line 12 should have said $57 if I'm reading this form right, but TT filled it as line 12 being zero.  Was that what caused the problem with the $4 being carried over to this year?

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

Actually it says on the form if line 12 is zero or LESS, then enter zero, so I guess the form is actually completed correctly.  I still can't figure out why the $57 appears to have been carried over to 2016!

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

MORE reading on the IRS website.  It appears to me 5329 is not required IF you withdrew the $57.  And on the 2015 8889 I indicated I withdrew it on the form.  So not sure why TT carried it over.  In the interview for 2016, there's a chance to change the $57 to 0 for the 2015 carry over, and then it removes the $4.  Again, not sure why it's carrying it over to begin with.  How would you proceed?

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

I made a 2015 test case that has $3407 of a W2. Then I ran two scenarios.
1 - in interview where it says $57 excess, I elected to withdraw $57. In this case, F1040, line 21 has $57 because it becomes taxable. F8889 line 12c is zero (excess withdraw). And no penalty from F5329, Part VII because you withdrew the excess.
2 - in interview where it says $57 excess, I elected to NOT withdraw $57. In this case I still have $57 on F1040, line 21 because the excess is taxable. F8889, line 12c is $57 (excess). And I now have F5329 with $3 on line 49 (6% of $57). The $3 carries forward to F1040, line 59.

Then, I tested scenarios in 2016. I enter a W2 with $3550. I indicated 10 months HDHP for limit of $2792.
1 - ($57 withdrawn in 2015), in interview you now have $558 excess. I elected to withdraw partial amount $388. Then EOY account balance entered as $388. In this case, I have $558 on F1040, line 21 now taxable as excess contribution. F8889 line 12c is $170 (portion of excess available). On F5329, I have a $10 penalty on line 49 (6% of ($558-$388=$170). Ten dollars carries forward to F1040, line 59.
2 - $57 NOT withdrawn in 2015), in interview still have $558 excess (the $57 is still in the accumulated excess but not shown here because taxed last year). I elected to withdraw partial amount $388. Then EOY account balance entered as $388. In this case, I have $558 on F1040, line 21 now taxable as excess contribution. F8889 line 12c is $170 (portion of excess available). On F5329, I see the $57 on line 42. I have a $14 penalty on line 49 (6% of ($558-$388+$57=$227). Fourteen dollars carries forward to F1040, line 59.

Based on our discussion, you should have filed one of theses cases.
1- properly reported withdrawing $57 in 2015.
2- properly reported NOT withdrawing $57 in 2015.

Maybe you can review your papers to see where your taxes are different than what I have done. Then maybe we can see where the problem lies.

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

Everything points to me doing scenario 1 last year.  That seems to have triggered 5329 NOT being generated in 2015, because since I withdrew the $57 the IRS treats it as if the overpayment never existed.  There's a place in the TT interview for 2016 that seems to basically allow me to correct the $57 to 0, but it references a 2015 form 5329 line 48, that looking in TT for 2015 was never created by TT 2015.  Right now I can't figure out what made TT 2016 carry over the $57 from 2015, because it looks like it was properly entered as withdrawn in 2015 on form 8889.  I'm thinking we'll both have to think on this one and see if anything surfaces in the next 1-2 months to explain the glitch!  In any event Happy New Year, and thank you for the patience and assistance!

Can I contribute the whole $3350 to my HSA if I leave before the end of the year?

There's something odd about your 2015 file that has no F5329 penalty yet brings an excess forward to 2016. I'm not able to reproduce this in testing. I'll be watching for any updates. Cheers!
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