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529 disbursements and Education Credit deduction Question

I am confused.  My son is a full time student, claimed as a dependent on a married filing jointly tax form. I have a 529 Education Fund and received a disbursement to me from that account which I used all of to pay for his entire Tuition, Fees and Room and board.  On Turbo Tax, when I enter all  the information, I get a notice that if I claim that some of the disbursement was taxable, I can then claim up to $4000 as an Education credit.  When I recalculate claiming this $4000 I can save another $1000 in taxes!  Is this legal?  To claim I took a $4000 disbursement from the 529 that wasn't for qualified education expenses (disbursement was sent to my bank account) and pay taxes on that, then turn around and say I had to pay another $4000 for his tuition from my pocket and claim the $4000 education credit?  My son meets all the qualifications for the credit.  Of course I want to save on taxes but it feels like I am not understanding something.  Please advise.  Can I legally do this?  Or maybe claim $3583 so it looks better?

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529 disbursements and Education Credit deduction Question

Sounds too good to be true but it is. You can opt to pay tax on $4000 of your 529 withdrawal and use $4000 of your own money for tuition and books and get the maximum American Opportunity Credit assuming the other qualifications are met. 

Hal_Al
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529 disbursements and Education Credit deduction Question

Yes that is legal.  You'll see it frequently recommended in this forum.  It your student has a scholarship (an amount in box 5 of form 1098-T), it gets even better, If that's your case, reply back for details.

 

It's not the whole  $4000 re-allocated distribution that gets taxed, it's only the earnings portion of the distribution. See example below. 

 

Q. To claim, do I  take  a $4000 disbursement from the 529 that wasn't for qualified education expenses (disbursement was sent to my bank account) and pay taxes on that, then turn around and say I had to pay another $4000 for his tuition from my pocket and claim the $4000 education credit? 

A. No. Just enter your 1099-Q first. Then later, in the educational expenses section, enter your student's 1098-T and other expenses. TurboTax (TT) will automatically allocate $4000 of tuition to the American Opportunity  Credit (AOC). You should eventually reach a screen called "Amount used to calculate education  credit" Be sure the amount in that box is $4000. You are allowed to edit it if needed. 

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

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